Update on LS100 Ghost 2015-10

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Update on LS100 Ghost 2015-10

Post by Gert » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:46 am

Hello SolarChat,

In previous postings I had reported on the initial observation of ghosting in the LS100 with DS module,

http://solarchat.natca.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13805

and then later on an update after Lunt had provided me with a new front red-glass for the DS unit.

http://solarchat.natca.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=17201

Thank you to all who contributed in the discussions at the time.

By now the LS100 and DS unit went to Lunt for servicing and I can report on the latest tests after it came back to me. In conversation, Lunt tech support informed me that the HRC glass that they had initially sent me had actually erroneously been a misshipped stock glass and not the high contrast version. This Sunday was sunny and clear blue sky, well suited for tests. Using the same setup as in prev tests I shot solar images with the Canon DSLR under 3 angles of rotation of the DS unit. The new HRC glass has better transmission and the first impression was that the image was brighter. When I adjusted the exposure of the camera (all other settings equal) it turned out to be one full exposure step. From prev. 1/4sec I had to go to 1/8sec to achieve same disk brightness. I used that setting to compare the residual ghosting. I would eyeball the residual ghosting to be 1/2 of what it was before. I guess that's a good achievement by the Lunt tech support team, and probably the end of the line for what can be done here.

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Re: Update on LS100 Ghost 2015-10

Post by Carbon60 » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:14 am

Hi Gert,

I can only re-state my experience which was to introduce a reverse facing photographic circular polarising filter between the two etalon modules. This completely eliminated the ghosting I observed with my DS Lunt35 mod. maybe speak with Lunt about doing this, as what you have is not acceptable for a high-end scope.

Good luck.

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Re: Update on LS100 Ghost 2015-10

Post by Derek Klepp » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:31 am

I,d still not be happy.I,ll stick with the single stack for the moment

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Re: Update on LS100 Ghost 2015-10

Post by Bill Edelen » Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:15 pm

frustrating results.......

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Re: Update on LS100 Ghost 2015-10

Post by GUS » Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:22 am

Hi Gert, how bad is the ghosting visually.

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Re: Update on LS100 Ghost 2015-10

Post by Gert » Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:57 am

@STU,

I picked up following polarizer.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004 ... detailpage

It would fully cover the 'front facing glass' of the DS unit.

My question for the experts :
As you know if you have a DS unit for the Lunt 100mm the DS unit pokes into the base OTA. Will it run into something delicate in there with the extra thickness of the filter attached?



@GUS: It is noticeable, maybe not as much as in the photos. The photos were made with the DSLR which is known not good for H-A. For high resolution photos I use the DMK41 camera. Then the ghosting outside the frame does not matter.

Here's an example:
http://drgert.dyndns.ws:8000/sun_2014/S ... mp_txt.jpg

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Re: Update on LS100 Ghost 2015-10

Post by Carbon60 » Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:00 am

Gert,

I'd recommend checking with Lunt. Someone in design there could check the CAD drawings to be absolutely sure of no collisions.


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