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Tilt adapter question

Post by ffellah » Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:48 pm

Hello everybody and Happy New Year. What are the tilt adapter options for a Flir Grasshopper 3 camera ? Is there any way to adapt/connect the ZWO tilt adapter to the Grasshopper ? Thank you in advance for your help.

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Re: Tilt adapter question

Post by rsfoto » Sat Jan 02, 2021 6:44 pm

ffellah wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:48 pm
Hello everybody and Happy New Year. What are the tilt adapter options for a Flir Grasshopper 3 camera ? Is there any way to adapt/connect the ZWO tilt adapter to the Grasshopper ? Thank you in advance for your help.

Franco
Hi Franco,

I just saw in the page that the camera has a C-Mount thread and that is 1" 32tpi.

Being that the case you need an adapter from T2 thread = M42x0.75 to C-Mount 1"-32tpi.

Something like the one below

https://www.amazon.com/0-75mm-Thread-Mo ... 952&sr=8-4

Camera is female C-Mount so the male part fits in there and the Tilt adapter from ZWO has a M42 to M42 male to male adapter and so the female part of the ZWO adapter fits into the amazon adapter.

https://astronomy-imaging-camera.com/pr ... -t2-tilter

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Re: Tilt adapter question

Post by rsfoto » Sat Jan 02, 2021 6:50 pm

One more

https://www.amazon.com/Astromania-Femal ... HKM1JKWMKK

and the question still is how do you connect the Grasshopper now to your telescope ?

Do you use a 1.25" nose piece ? If yes then you need to order the nose piece from ZWO which has a T2 thread.

https://astronomy-imaging-camera.com/pr ... ra-adapter

https://www.amazon.com/Serounder-Alumin ... s9dHJ1ZQ==

You will possibly need another adapter from T2 to the part of the telescope ...

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Re: Tilt adapter question

Post by MapleRidge » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:15 pm

Hi Franco...

Happy New Year to you and family as well.

The links that Rainer sent will do the job. I bought another version of the C-to-T adapter many years ago for mate the Daystar tilt adjuster to my Grasshopper Express. You will need the adapter to get the 1.25" nose-piece on the opposite side as well, but the combo is not expensive and will not take up much focus travel.

Daystar does make a C-mount version of their adjuster which will not require any additional adapters, but it is $175.

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Re: Tilt adapter question

Post by ffellah » Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:07 am

Thanks a lot Rainer and Brian. I ordered on Amazon the one on the first link, that was the least expensive. It will most likely do the job: I will keep you posted.

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Re: Tilt adapter question

Post by rsfoto » Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:12 am

ffellah wrote:
Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:07 am
Thanks a lot Rainer and Brian. I ordered on Amazon the one on the first link, that was the least expensive. It will most likely do the job: I will keep you posted.

Franco
Hi Franco,

Glad I helped you. What about the connection of the Tilter to the scope ?

Rainer


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Re: Tilt adapter question

Post by marktownley » Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:13 pm

Diving in here a bit late... I have the Daystar CMount tilter, and I find it good, easier to use than the others i've come across. The only thing I would do differently is I would use their TMount tilter instead; it has a larger clear aperture. I find when I use it with my IMX174 chipped (widescreen) camera I get a bit of subtle vignetting with a lot of tilt. Nothing huge, but it hurts my head knowing it's happening :)

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Re: Tilt adapter question

Post by ffellah » Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:13 pm

Rainer: I should get the adapter on Wednesday, see that all works well, hopefully, and then see the connection to the scope. I have the nose piece of the ZWO174 that I can try out. Then if I sell the ZWO camera, I will get a new nose piece. Mark: thank you for your input and for pointing me to the very interesting article on your site.

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Re: Tilt adapter question

Post by rsfoto » Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:23 pm

ffellah wrote:
Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:13 pm
Rainer: I should get the adapter on Wednesday, see that all works well, hopefully, and then see the connection to the scope. I have the nose piece of the ZWO174 that I can try out. Then if I sell the ZWO camera, I will get a new nose piece. Mark: thank you for your input and for pointing me to the very interesting article on your site.

Franco
Hi Franco,

What are the advantages of the FLIR Grasshopper 3 camera to a ZWO 174MM ?


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Re: Tilt adapter question

Post by Montana » Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:29 pm

I'm also a bit late to the party. I have both the Grasshopper and the Zwo tilter. I've never had NRs with the Grasshopper ever, so never tried it with it. So why do you need a tilter for the Grasshopper? The ZWO ASI174, that is a different beast for rings. However, I've still never managed to work out how to use the tilter with the ZWO.

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Re: Tilt adapter question

Post by marktownley » Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:33 pm

I get NR with my 174 chipped GH3


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Re: Tilt adapter question

Post by ffellah » Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:43 pm

Hi Alexandra: thank you for your input. I just received the FLIR Grasshopper 3 with the 174 chip a couple of days ago. Due to the season and weather, I do not know when I will be able to try it and see if I need a tilt adapter. But I want to have one that works just in case I need it. Imaging time you know is precious and do not want to find out I need a tilt adapter and then having to wait for delivery, etc. I also have a ZWO178 camera, and may need the adapter for that. This down time is good for me to review the equipment and see what I can upgrade for the next season. I already have the tilt adapter from ZWO that I have been using for the ZWO174 camera regularly. I just needed the C mount adapter to make it work with the FLIR camera.

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Post by Montana » Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:19 pm

Oh I see, I forget the Grasshopper comes with many chips. Yes, that 174 sensor is a pain in the but!

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Re: Tilt adapter question

Post by MapleRidge » Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:09 pm

Sounds good Franco!

All you basically needed was the adapter to convert the camera C thread to the T thread on the tilt unit.

I think you will really enjoy the 174 chipped camera!

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Re: Tilt adapter question

Post by ffellah » Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:15 pm

Thank you all for your help

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Re: Tilt adapter question

Post by ffellah » Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:20 pm

@Rainer: I tried the new Grasshopper 3 with the 174 chip on Saturday. It is definitely faster than the ZWO ASI174. With my i5 Acer laptop 2.2Ghz 8Gb of memory and 500Gb SSD I got right away two runs at 140 and 141 FPS. With the ZWO camera I was getting at best around 100 to maybe 110 FPS. I have not had a chance to compare noise, but so far I am happy with the upgrade. I still think the ZWO ASI174 is an excellent camera and has a great value to performance ratio. BTW, Rainer, the adapter you suggested works perfectly, thank you.

Franco



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