Lunt B400/B600 Ha Blocking Filters
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Lunt B400/B600 Ha Blocking Filters
Hi there.
I have a question for someone who owns one of the above units... What size is the clear diameter of the ITF in these blockers please - that is the filter you see when you look down the end of the diagonal that goes into the focuser, not the eyepiece end which would be 4 or 6 mm depending on the model.
Thanks in advance.
Mark
I have a question for someone who owns one of the above units... What size is the clear diameter of the ITF in these blockers please - that is the filter you see when you look down the end of the diagonal that goes into the focuser, not the eyepiece end which would be 4 or 6 mm depending on the model.
Thanks in advance.
Mark
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Re: Lunt B400/B600 Ha Blocking Filters
I have a B600 filter that fits into a 2 inch focuser draw tube, and it measures 0.725 in for the clear opening; I assume that the filter is the same size for a 1.25 inch focuser draw tube, but I do not know that for sure, and I have no clue for the B400 dimensions.
By the way, Rikki, of Lunt, revealed about a month ago that that filter is not an ITF type, but just colored glass. The post is on CN and the subject of the post was how someone used plastic lens cleaner to remove the "rust"
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By the way, Rikki, of Lunt, revealed about a month ago that that filter is not an ITF type, but just colored glass. The post is on CN and the subject of the post was how someone used plastic lens cleaner to remove the "rust"
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Re: Lunt B400/B600 Ha Blocking Filters
Just realized that the post revealing the type of filter was not on the CN Solar forum, but the ATM forum: here is link
http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/ ... ll/fpart/1
http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/ ... ll/fpart/1
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Re: Lunt B400/B600 Ha Blocking Filters
Thank you very much for that link, I wasn't aware of it.
It has answered my question, and more Unusually revealing for CN, I don't think they realise how much they're telling us there :whistle:
Time for me to have a peruse at the Schott catalogue 8)
It has answered my question, and more Unusually revealing for CN, I don't think they realise how much they're telling us there :whistle:
Time for me to have a peruse at the Schott catalogue 8)
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Re: Lunt B400/B600 Ha Blocking Filters
Oliver's UV-IR/KG3 as a replacement??
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Re: Lunt B400/B600 Ha Blocking Filters
Can sombody repost the bandpass curve for the BG Glass. Bobs link takes a person to the product page not the filter curve page.
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Thanks Mark, So what BG glass type would be considered best?
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The BG 38 looks like it would be taking care of the bleed through from 1100 up. Mark is this what you thought may be causing problems with (Ha) heat on the CCD? If so would this filter resolve that?
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http://www.schott.com/advanced_optics/e ... 13_eng.pdf
This is the full Schott glass filter catalogue....
This is the full Schott glass filter catalogue....
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Re: Lunt B400/B600 Ha Blocking Filters
It's interesting: The ERF on the scopes are going to be cutting energy below ~600nm, with the BG glass cutting it above this value, leaving a nice peak remaining in the red for the blocking filter element. BG glass does remain transparent above 1500-2000nm though, so, either this is being cut elsewhere or it is not necessary to cut... ???
The KG glass is a damn effective cut at wavelengths above 700nm up to several thousand nm, however it is a soda glass and this absorbs moisture, fogging in the process; also optically is isn't as 'good' as we might like. The BG glass is a phosphate glass and is the presence of humidity a calcium phosphate crystallization can occur on the surface (what has happened to the guys in the CN link) however this is 'better' optically than the KG, which is why I guess lunt are using it.
I do have a gut feeling Joe that these longer wavelengths manifest themselves as 'noise' in our cameras. I know the camera isn't sensitive at these wavelengths in terms of imaging ability, but I do think when a load of this longer wavelength energy is dumped on the chip it increases noise. Sadly with winter here this is a theory I cannot test till next year now (realistically!) - any clear skies now are brief and i'll be concentrating on just grabbing some shots rather than experimenting!
As a sideline I think the Schott BG36 would make a good candidate for a triple band (CaK, continuum, Ha) ERF with a suitable IR blocker... http://www.schott.com/advanced_optics/e ... 08_eng.pdf
The KG glass is a damn effective cut at wavelengths above 700nm up to several thousand nm, however it is a soda glass and this absorbs moisture, fogging in the process; also optically is isn't as 'good' as we might like. The BG glass is a phosphate glass and is the presence of humidity a calcium phosphate crystallization can occur on the surface (what has happened to the guys in the CN link) however this is 'better' optically than the KG, which is why I guess lunt are using it.
I do have a gut feeling Joe that these longer wavelengths manifest themselves as 'noise' in our cameras. I know the camera isn't sensitive at these wavelengths in terms of imaging ability, but I do think when a load of this longer wavelength energy is dumped on the chip it increases noise. Sadly with winter here this is a theory I cannot test till next year now (realistically!) - any clear skies now are brief and i'll be concentrating on just grabbing some shots rather than experimenting!
As a sideline I think the Schott BG36 would make a good candidate for a triple band (CaK, continuum, Ha) ERF with a suitable IR blocker... http://www.schott.com/advanced_optics/e ... 08_eng.pdf
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Re: Lunt B400/B600 Ha Blocking Filters
Thanks for the input Mark. Things to thing about. B)
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