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PGR Chameleon for sale

Post by rbotero » Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:57 pm

I may go down the ASI120MM route for solar and my trusty PGR Chameleon will be up for sale. PM me if you are interested. All pictures I've posted in the forums were taken with it. It's a little over 1 year old and bought from PGR distributors in the UK. It's up for sale in the UK in AstroBuySell but price is negotiable for forum members!
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Re: PGR Chameleon for sale

Post by Montana » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:44 pm

How many frames per second does it do and is it similar to a DMK41? and is it more light sensitive than the DMK41? is it less noisy than a DMK41 when taking a prominence (sorry I don't understand all the techno babble about this model and I am confused but interested). If anyone could give me a little guidance I would be very grateful.

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Re: PGR Chameleon for sale

Post by swisswalter » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:53 pm

Hi Alexandra

what I have seen it takes 18 fps and has small 3,75 µm pixels, 1/3" chip
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Re: PGR Chameleon for sale

Post by Pedro » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:10 pm



Specs






I have one and its great:

more info here:
http://www.astrosurf.com/re/chamaleon.html

The only thing I do not like is the imaging soft. I use Firecapture instead.

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Re: PGR Chameleon for sale

Post by rbotero » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:21 pm

Hi Alexandra

I don't know how it compares to the DMK41 as I've never owned one but the PGR is quite a capable little camera. For all purposes its max 18fps are good for solar and lunar imaging. FireCapture is great as Pedro says and its native 16bit set it a notch above other cameras at the same price range.

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Re: PGR Chameleon for sale

Post by Montana » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:34 am

I'm very tempted but I just don't understand all the techno speak above that Pedro provided.

Pedro, if you are out there, you have both cameras, please could you tell me whether if I took a prominence with the Chameleon would I use a quicker exposure and would it be less noisy? than the DMK41.

Also it says it has a smaller pixel size than the DMK41, does that mean I will capture more detail?

Can it take pictures of Saturn?

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Re: PGR Chameleon for sale

Post by Pedro » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:51 am

Hi Alexandra:

The PGR Chameleon has a smaller chip but a better resolution (smaller pixels). As far as noise is concerned it compares well with the DMK41. I use the DMKs most of the times but the PGR Chameleon is great for HR imaging of the moon and planets as well (and of course the sun). The only problem is that you will have to install the drivers and the imaging soft (FlyCapture) that is very bad IMHO. Having done this you can use Firecapture (much better). Hope this helps.

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Re: PGR Chameleon for sale

Post by Bob Yoesle » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:43 pm

Hi Alexandra, I'll give the Chameleon two thumbs up as well - you've seen my images: that is what I've been using, and just at the 8 bit setting in FireCapture:





Here's a good blog that reviews various cameras, and the Chameleon gets a pretty good evaluation:

http://www.rkblog.rk.edu.pl/w/p/new-sol ... eras-2013/

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Re: PGR Chameleon for sale

Post by Montana » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:36 pm

Thanks Bob, I was actually viewing your images today as a gold standard. I shall have a read of the review as to be honest I am so confused I don't really know what to do. I don't know whether to put up with my damaged DMK41 and wait for something in the future, or go for this as a replacement whilst I wait. It will probably be sold by the time I make up my confused mind.

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Re: PGR Chameleon for sale

Post by Pedro » Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:37 pm

What's wrong with your DMK41 Alexandra?

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Re: PGR Chameleon for sale

Post by Montana » Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:09 pm

I have slow chip degradation.

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Post by Pedro » Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:35 pm

Sorry to hear that, the last images I saw were fine

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Re: PGR Chameleon for sale

Post by ourobouros2k2 » Sun May 05, 2013 8:33 pm

pardon my newbie ignorance, but what is chip degradation? Can't decide between PGR chameleon and DMK41, but that sounds troubling? Is it something that is acculmulative with solar imaging?

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Re: PGR Chameleon for sale

Post by Montana » Mon May 06, 2013 10:40 am

Hi Andy,
I shouldn't bother about this too much, I think I am the only unlucky person in the world of solar astronomers. I think it was there from the beginning really but was too naive to notice, I then could have had it fixed in warranty. It is now getting worse so I have to put up with it. Nobody else has this problem. I think either a DMK41 or Chameleon seem roughly identical, you would be really happy with either of them. Ignore my problem as it seems to be one in a million.

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Re: PGR Chameleon for sale

Post by ourobouros2k2 » Mon May 06, 2013 11:51 am

thanks for the clarification, sorry for your troubles :(

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Re: PGR Chameleon for sale

Post by swisswalter » Mon May 06, 2013 5:52 pm

Hi Alexandra

I'm sory to hear about the DMK41 degradation. Maybe the manufacturer is reading this and is willing to look into it despite the months gone.


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