LUNT 300mm Ha SolarScope - Question ??

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LUNT 300mm Ha SolarScope - Question ??

Post by EGRAY_OBSERVATORY » Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:06 pm

Does anyone know of anybody who has the 300mm Lunt Ha scope ??

I've just come across an advert of today showing these for sale at:- £130,152.30p and a cheaper one at £94,235.29p ...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Apparently does not include EP's or a mount, but does include a Dovetail bar, :oops: so I just wonder what the weight and length are, as the supplier doesn't seem to know ??

Also what are the benefits of this 300mm version are over my 60mm version and whether it is worth trading mine in for this purchase ?? :seesaw

Also could I get a discount off of each of 30p and 29p respectively - as my cheque books don't have enough space for all those numbers ??? :P

Honest answers only please, as there's a lot at stake here... :bow

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Re: LUNT 300mm Ha SolarScope - Question ??

Post by marktownley » Sat Feb 20, 2021 9:55 am

My guess is very few people have a L300...


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Re: LUNT 300mm Ha SolarScope - Question ??

Post by Alto » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:00 am

Looks like the Forth Road Bridge with glass at either end.

Actually I do have one, I visit it often in my dreams....

Wonder how it would function under UK skies!


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Re: LUNT 300mm Ha SolarScope - Question ??

Post by marktownley » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:12 am

Alto wrote:
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Wonder how it would function under UK skies!
Like a £100k paperweight!


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Re: LUNT 300mm Ha SolarScope - Question ??

Post by Alto » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:26 am

Besides, Terry, don't they all say it's not the size that matters, but what you do with it.......


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Re: LUNT 300mm Ha SolarScope - Question ??

Post by EGRAY_OBSERVATORY » Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:35 pm

Thanks Gentleman for those excellent answers.

So we have a "£130,152.30p - Paper-Weight" and a "part of the Fourth Road Bridge in Scotland." That's a start...

Isn't this beast, a bit like having a Rolls Royce car - just for shopping at my local ??

We Wish.. (or not)...

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Re: LUNT 300mm Ha SolarScope - Question ??

Post by Alto » Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:51 pm

Hey - low mileage, whilst a second hand Lunt 300 will have 'done' 92 million miles?


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Post by EGRAY_OBSERVATORY » Sat Feb 20, 2021 1:46 pm

An excellent response Geoff - thanks I'll take that into consideration too - before buying...

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Re: LUNT 300mm Ha SolarScope - Question ??

Post by rsfoto » Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:14 pm

Alto wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:51 pm
Hey - low mileage, whilst a second hand Lunt 300 will have 'done' 92 million miles?
... but a Rolls Royce can be used in any kind of weather ...

I only hope they do not use Lucas parts " The Prince of Darkness " as in my Old Land Rover :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: LUNT 300mm Ha SolarScope - Question ??

Post by DeepSolar64 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:38 pm

Terry,
You would probably seldomly use the scope at full aperture due to seeing limitations unless you have an A1 site nearby but you can always stop it down. You have a lot of aperture to work with here. And if you did get one of those rare days that you could use all 12" of it there would be no one here that could touch you in resolution!

But WoW what a conversation piece you would have. Probably the largest commercially available Ha solar telescope available. That's [bad-word] cool!

I would drink a toast to Terry and his big ass scope! :cool:

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Re: LUNT 300mm Ha SolarScope - Question ??

Post by christian viladrich » Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:48 pm

A 355 mm SC with a full aperture ERF and a 0.3 A etalon woud be much less expensive ;-)

At 280 mm, a 11"Hat has a much better cost/benefit ratio, and you can move it around easily.


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Re: LUNT 300mm Ha SolarScope - Question ??

Post by EGRAY_OBSERVATORY » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:36 pm

Ha Ha. Rainer that sounds about correct too, as Lucas has been around for yonks, even with all the competition.

To stop-down this Behemoth - would seem to be sad, unless LUNT have already produced a decent f-stopper (no doubt at extra $/£'s..
And James the scope is about as big (if not bigger) than me...

Well Christian, what can I add to your comment, but I must admit I do prefer Lunt to the other makes... Simplicity is my aim and usually achieved..
I would imagine (unlike the Rolls Royce) that this scope is really to be mounted on a suitable Solar tracking-mount in an observatory, rather than being moved around from place to place...

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Re: LUNT 300mm Ha SolarScope - Question ??

Post by DeepSolar64 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:51 pm

Terry,
The C11 based HaT would probably be an excellent alternative, I agree with Christian on that, but the Lunt 300 would no doubt be excellent. It certainly is a fixed observatory scope. Not very portable. But you do have an observatory so that should not be an issue for you. You will need a good mount too.

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Re: LUNT 300mm Ha SolarScope - Question ??

Post by DeepSolar64 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:56 pm

Terry,
You can double stack it too!

https://www.highpointscientific.com/lun ... 0tha-b3400

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Re: LUNT 300mm Ha SolarScope - Question ??

Post by EGRAY_OBSERVATORY » Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:20 pm

Thanks James and for the link too. I see that a 5-year warranty is shown there, which for the price should be in any case.

My observatory was built primarily for Solar observations and imaging (although can and is used for other purposes up there) and the SkyWatcher ALT-EQ6 GT mount should be able to easily handle the weight, but not with the WL & Cal-K scopes (as the tri-scope assembly-now).

Also the length of the Behemoth would almost certainly be an issue with both the telescope-stand and the roof-structure... (bearing in mind the additional length of camera etc.

I note though the the U.S. prices seem much lower than in the U.K.

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Re: LUNT 300mm Ha SolarScope - Question ??

Post by DeepSolar64 » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:08 am

Terry,
Here is a somewhat cheaper alternative. The Lunt LS230tha. It costs about what a car does here. Cheaper large alternatives would be the Celestron based AiryLab HaT 9.25" and 8" aperture sizes.

https://luntsolarsystems.com/shop/solar ... ng-filter/

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Re: LUNT 300mm Ha SolarScope - Question ??

Post by george9 » Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:00 am

I think it is neat that they created it. I was so looking forward to looking through it at last year's NEAF or this year's NEAF, but COVID intervened.

I already own a 280mm H-alpha scope, on which I use a 0.3A filter double stacked with another etalon. But this would give a really nice refractor view. Unlike the 280 and its limited field of view, the 300 and its 5-inch etalon I think covers the whole disk.

My mount would hold it fine, but I could never store it or pay for it.

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Post by DeepSolar64 » Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:45 am

George,
If your 280 a refractor or SCT? If so that is a massive refractor!

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Post by george9 » Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:40 am

Sorry, I meant I have a 280mm SCT, but I would love to look through a Lunt 300mm H-alpha refractor.

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Re: LUNT 300mm Ha SolarScope - Question ??

Post by EGRAY_OBSERVATORY » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:53 pm

Thank you Gentleman.
Yes James, I did look at the 230mm scope as well. I usually don't go for a lower-priced item if there is something better, but certainly the 230 is nice.
Likewise, if I had a use for any R.R. car, then I might have done the honours there, but my likkle vintage Ford is more than sufficient for my purposes - as is rarely used and has allowed me to spend my dosh on things like flying and more expensive astro-gear etc...

Thanks George for your comments and certainly would have been nice to have had a review from you from NEAF.

As said earlier by George/Alto, "don't they all say it's not the size that matters, but what you do with it......."

The saga goes on.

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Re: LUNT 300mm Ha SolarScope - Question ??

Post by Montana » Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:33 pm

I'm presuming you are looking at this as a conversation topic only Terry, you don't really intend to buy it do you :shock: you had me worried :)

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Re: LUNT 300mm Ha SolarScope - Question ??

Post by EGRAY_OBSERVATORY » Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:06 pm

Hi Alexandra,
If I wanted to have the most expensive scope of this type, there would be far-too many issues that would need to be sorted too.
viz:-
A new purpose-built observatory c/w motorized rotating-roof and a suitable aperture.
A deep and very stable base to mount a suitable pillar.
A far better mount than my S/W AZ-EQ6GT, for very accurate tracking due to the 300's length.
A new computerised set-up and all the cabling etc., required.
A move well-away from the U.K. to a location where the weather is much-less of an enemy to Solar-Watchers and Star-Gazers alike / all year round.
A need to have this Behemoth - rather than a need to show-off - that this is bigger than others, which may or may not produce better images.
A lot of time to take advantage of any possibilities that this scope can achieve above and beyond that which other scopes and their users on SolarChat
have proven that "the size simply does not matter"... (50mm and above to say 130mm have proven that they can take exemplary-images, so it is
most unlikely that an aperture of 300mm will allow me to improve on those others having proven here)...
I'd sooner have the Rolls Royce - if I really wanted to show-off albeit I'm not sure other on-lookers will be jealous, rather amused and in any case, I have flown many aircraft - many times the value of the Lunt 300mm Ha "BEHEMOTH" and never needed to buy one of those either...!!!

In other words Alexandra, if I really wanted to to improve on the Lunt 60mm Ha & Cal-K scopes I have already, then I could consider to do whatever is necessary to my Meade 127mm ApoChromatic-Triplet for the same purpose...

My aim was simply to see what others here think about this monster and it's ridiculous U.K. price...

I trust that puts your mind at rest ??
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Re: LUNT 300mm Ha SolarScope - Question ??

Post by DeepSolar64 » Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:57 am

You had me wondering Terry. That scope would only be useful in a good climate with clear skies and good seeing. Pedro Re' comes to mind here but even he doesn't have one of these behemoths! The UK and solar observing don't seem to mix well. You Brits have too much cloudiness! But somehow you guys persevere.

What scope would you REALLY consider, Terry?

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Re: LUNT 300mm Ha SolarScope - Question ??

Post by EGRAY_OBSERVATORY » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:01 am

Thanks James.
A LUNT 60mm Ha and CAL-k, with FeatherTouch focusers + B1200 BF's. and a DS for the Ha, all without pressure-tuning devices.
In other words, exactly as I have now already and over the last 10-years. (The more one adds to almost anything, the more there is to go wrong -
as Murphy says :- "If it can go wrong, it will go wrong." That applies to almost everything around us today...

With the reliability I've experienced and knowing that LUNT's service and back-up are superior to many others, why would I want to venture to Quirk or another manufacturer, where apparently it seems impossible to even get to speak to someone or return Emails - at present at least ??

That is my thoughts and from my experiences..

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Re: LUNT 300mm Ha SolarScope - Question ??

Post by DeepSolar64 » Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:37 pm

Terry,
The main reason I chose Coronado over Lunt was cost. My Coronado SMII90 DS cost me 3500 dollars. A double stacked Lunt LS80MT would have pushed me up to 5500. I know sometimes you get what you pay for but sometimes a higher amount of money is hard to come by. Time will tell whether I made a decent decision.

And yes, Lunt is well known for their good customer service. Meade, not so much.

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