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Post by highfnum » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:13 pm

i got a Jove system as gift
I ran it for few hours today
I took this part of scan today
it looks like a small radio burst but not sure
I read manual it appears to look like one
what do you think?
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Re: need some help

Post by highfnum » Sun Mar 06, 2016 11:13 pm

of course the SUN not jupiter

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Post by Montana » Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:11 pm

Have you checked the time and date with SolarMonitor?
http://www.solarmonitor.org/
Click on the GOES (right hand side) and X-rays to get the chart.

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Post by highfnum » Mon Mar 07, 2016 7:14 pm

thx your a real sweetie ;)

I went to website I marked where time matches
I think its ok but im no expert
what do you think ?
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Re: need some help

Post by Montana » Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:37 pm

If the time matches then :hamster: :hamster: :hamster:

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Re: need some help

Post by DSobserver » Tue Mar 08, 2016 8:51 pm

I'm afraid it is not...

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The activity was more around 13h10 ...

Was your clock perfectly on time?

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Post by highfnum » Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:22 pm

dont know

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Re: need some help

Post by highfnum » Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:30 pm

it ran from about 10:30 am local NY to about 2pm NY time mar 6

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Post by highfnum » Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:42 pm

ok DSobserver is always a great help someday I gotta get back to France and meet you. he helped getting focus of SHG correct

so yes my time is off
clock was set using local time 13.26
I am at - 5 UTC

so 13.26 + 5 = 18.26

chart is cut in 3HR blocks
so DSObserver is correct I missed main event
but I did pick up a minor blip I remarked chart

1) there is a question of scale: my chart is making event look "large"

2) Montana is there a way to get more refined data form NOAA?

3) but event I recorded does fit JOVE site description of a solar an average event "sharp rise followed by slow decay lasting 1 minute or less - this one was 30 seconds
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Post by Montana » Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:39 pm

I guess the best person to ask all these questions to is Thomas Ashcraft as he is an expert at this and will be able to answer everything. His site is here http://www.heliotown.com/Table_of_Contents.html

His mail is at the bottom of the page but he also frequents these pages too with his solar flare patrol and it is great to listen to his radio recordings of the Sun during a flare. He Heliotown on here.

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Post by Carbon60 » Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:05 pm

It looks like you did capture the minor event (the shape is correct). Radio Skypipe does a lot of auto-rescaling, so even minor signals show as large events until a larger event happens and everything else is downscaled in comparison. The trick is to always ensure that your clock is accurately set and that it is working in Universal Time. That way it is much easier to compare across different sources of data as the time reference is then common.

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Post by DSobserver » Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:06 pm

sorry, but at 18.26, there is nothing :

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database can be found here : http://www.polarlicht-vorhersage.de

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Post by highfnum » Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:35 pm

ok
it appears this stuff is more like math statistic class than astronomy
one point is not enough of a sample

I will have to run more sessions to build a point base

also
Im not sure how to read your graph -- what is it showing

also
I see a problem with all this
you get a pattern - it walks like a duck it looks like a duck
but it might not be a duck

because something else might have made the same pattern
it not like I can go out and look

like the SHG this is going to take a while

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Post by DSobserver » Fri Mar 11, 2016 6:55 am

my graph is exactly same as yours but instead to be from 5th to 8th of march, it is from 18h to 19h the 6th of march.
some explanations that you most probably knows already : http://spaceweather.com/glossary/flareclasses.html

the difference between the grey and green graph is mots probably in the 1-8 Angstrom (0.1-0.8 nm) and 0.5-4.0 Angstrom (0.05-0.4 nm) passbands.

As far as I could read regarding jove project : one point is not enough. You can catch either terrestrial event or stellar event. But the good news is that you catch them too!

Now you're right : as soon as you detect something, you have first to check if it is a stellar event or not, and only after you can open a bottle of champagne! :beanie:

But I'm afraid that what ever radio system you'll use, it will be the same...we are not using a GOES satellite far away from terrestrial activities :cry:

Now to be honest, I was thinking to build my own system soon, and jove system looks fun indeed!

Remember that what you are trying to observe at the end is this :
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Re: need some help

Post by DSobserver » Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:06 pm

Any new trial?

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Re: need some help

Post by highfnum » Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:45 am

today there was some action - I saw it visually

pattern today was one I never saw

but I have no idea if it means anything related to sun activity

but this time UT time is correct

also conveying image is not easy either

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Post by highfnum » Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:48 am

i expand at random a few around 345
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Post by highfnum » Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:08 am

here is shot of some flare stuff going on with simple SS pst
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Re: need some help

Post by Montana » Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:21 pm

Very interesting work :hamster: :bow :bow

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