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Hi modder gang
Bobs CaK filter arrived just on x-mas, the clouds too. Hence I can show only some simple plots
Transmission overview
Transmission close up
Absorption overview
Interesting is the different behavier in transmission when measured through the silver side in comparison to the green-blue side. Visually I cant see the sun disk through the filter. The green-blue part of the filter looks some how like the baader venus filter
Bobs CaK filter arrived just on x-mas, the clouds too. Hence I can show only some simple plots
Transmission overview
Transmission close up
Absorption overview
Interesting is the different behavier in transmission when measured through the silver side in comparison to the green-blue side. Visually I cant see the sun disk through the filter. The green-blue part of the filter looks some how like the baader venus filter
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Merry Christmas to all!
Walter, thank you very much for sharing these results with us.
I see that this is very much different from what were told on the Bob's eBay page with this filter description.
On the eBay ads the transmission is higher than 60% ! Your filter has lower than 20%.
Blocking also is far from what were promised: "The filter comes as with high degree blocking elements that attenuate the longer wavelengths to an average of OD 8 and a minimum of OD 5.0. " While your results are close to OD 4 only.
For imaging this is OK, as the typical 10bits camera will not see the background. But the eyes have much wider dynamical range and therefore one can see the sun disk at longer wave lengths.
Will be interesting to see the image with DS and with a telescope 100mm and larger at high resolution. Too bad that large spots are over.
Valery.
Walter, thank you very much for sharing these results with us.
I see that this is very much different from what were told on the Bob's eBay page with this filter description.
On the eBay ads the transmission is higher than 60% ! Your filter has lower than 20%.
Blocking also is far from what were promised: "The filter comes as with high degree blocking elements that attenuate the longer wavelengths to an average of OD 8 and a minimum of OD 5.0. " While your results are close to OD 4 only.
For imaging this is OK, as the typical 10bits camera will not see the background. But the eyes have much wider dynamical range and therefore one can see the sun disk at longer wave lengths.
Will be interesting to see the image with DS and with a telescope 100mm and larger at high resolution. Too bad that large spots are over.
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Hi Valery
thank you very much, there will be new spots on the disk, I'm sure
thank you very much, there will be new spots on the disk, I'm sure
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Interesting, thanks for this walter. We have ordered some clear skies for you and Barbara so you can test it out. I look forward to the results. I'm tempted by one of these, but i'll see what performance is like first...
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thank you very much for the ordered CS. Do you happen to know something about the delivery date
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swisswalter wrote:Hi Mark
thank you very much for the ordered CS. Do you happen to know something about the delivery date
sometime between now and summer solstice
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Hi Steve
that destroyes all our hope
that destroyes all our hope
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I do hope a lot sooner as I am very interested in your results
in fact I would have ordered a filter but for the polite demand by the Companies House for corporation tax
in fact I would have ordered a filter but for the polite demand by the Companies House for corporation tax
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Ibbo wrote:I do hope a lot sooner as I am very interested in your results
in fact I would have ordered a filter but for the polite demand by the Companies House for corporation tax
Hi Steve
All over the world the same situation , isn't that funny
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Hi Freaks
Bob mentioned that my measurement my lack some measuring points. So I did a rerun from both sides blue / and silvered side with 0,5 nm resolution instead of 1 nm
the result
Bob mentioned that my measurement my lack some measuring points. So I did a rerun from both sides blue / and silvered side with 0,5 nm resolution instead of 1 nm
the result
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16% of transmission instead of promised 60%.
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Walter,
Were your results corrected/ calibrated for the camera response at 400nm??
Just checking.
Were your results corrected/ calibrated for the camera response at 400nm??
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Hi Ken
thank you very much. No I made no corrections at all for the CCD response, but of course for the instrument.
@Valery it has almost 100% more light trough put compared to the KLUNT filter
thank you very much. No I made no corrections at all for the CCD response, but of course for the instrument.
@Valery it has almost 100% more light trough put compared to the KLUNT filter
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Another question....
I see it's quoted as a 1.25" filter.....does it come in the usual threaded filter cell?????
I see it's quoted as a 1.25" filter.....does it come in the usual threaded filter cell?????
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"All components are mounted in a standard 28mm or 1.25" Eyepiece ring." - as described on the site.Merlin66 wrote:Another question....
I see it's quoted as a 1.25" filter.....does it come in the usual threaded filter cell?????
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Hi Ken
in my case it came nacked as a Sandwich of a bluish and silvered part. It fits nicely in a narrow 1,25" threaded filter cell. It is too small in diameter to fit in a 1,25" threaded filter cell from TS
in my case it came nacked as a Sandwich of a bluish and silvered part. It fits nicely in a narrow 1,25" threaded filter cell. It is too small in diameter to fit in a 1,25" threaded filter cell from TS
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Hmmm
OK, then you need a spare empty 1.25" filter cell to mount it.......
OK, then you need a spare empty 1.25" filter cell to mount it.......
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Hi Ken
yes exactly. Watch out for the free Diameter, the filterstack has a diameter of 24.9 mm and not 27,6 which is the usual european / Baader size
yes exactly. Watch out for the free Diameter, the filterstack has a diameter of 24.9 mm and not 27,6 which is the usual european / Baader size
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Hi Modder Freaks
here comes the load ;-)
you will see 23 different filter combos, taken on two days. Each combo was taken with the GH3, ~500 Frames, stacked 32 of them with autostakkert, threated only mild in PS to my taste.
on the first day I used only the WO110, stopped down to 90 mm (f/7.3)
because of the results I got
I used on the second day the WO 110 not stopped down and the 127/ f/10
to sum up
° you can take nice pics with the new bob filter
° the bob filter has a great transmission rate, easely to come down to 8 ms or less exposure time
° it works fine at f/6, f/7,3 and f/10
° if you want to have even fields, never introduce a LUNT CaK stack or PST CaK #1 filter in the optical Train
° the banding I observed with my filter was not dependend on the f/number nor the position of the filter
to better understand the coming pics: the following information
- first I shot with my standart filter stack as a reference
- then different combinations of filters to see if I could get better result's
- finally I introduced also a filter tilting device (the Skybender) to get rid of the banding (that is what I call it, Bobs filter behaves something like a PST Etalon , having a good side and a not so good side
o.k. lets get started
first go monday 5th january ,with the WO 110, stoppend down to 90mm giving something like f/7,3
My standard CaK filter set
only Bob filter
bob filter with K-line as a prefilter
bob with CaK PST #1 +K-line
Bob-Luntstack-K-line
LUNTstack-CaKPST#1- Kline
PSTCAK#1-K-line- PSTCAK3#1
Lunt Stack-PST CaK#1-K-Line_PSt CaK#1
Bob-PSTCaK#1
Bob_K-line_PSTCak#1
Skybender Bob_PSTCaK#1
Skybender- bob-K line_ CaK pst#1
Skybender K-Line_Bob
WO110 no stop f/6
luntstack_CaKPST#1-k-line-CaKPST#1
here comes the load ;-)
you will see 23 different filter combos, taken on two days. Each combo was taken with the GH3, ~500 Frames, stacked 32 of them with autostakkert, threated only mild in PS to my taste.
on the first day I used only the WO110, stopped down to 90 mm (f/7.3)
because of the results I got
I used on the second day the WO 110 not stopped down and the 127/ f/10
to sum up
° you can take nice pics with the new bob filter
° the bob filter has a great transmission rate, easely to come down to 8 ms or less exposure time
° it works fine at f/6, f/7,3 and f/10
° if you want to have even fields, never introduce a LUNT CaK stack or PST CaK #1 filter in the optical Train
° the banding I observed with my filter was not dependend on the f/number nor the position of the filter
to better understand the coming pics: the following information
- first I shot with my standart filter stack as a reference
- then different combinations of filters to see if I could get better result's
- finally I introduced also a filter tilting device (the Skybender) to get rid of the banding (that is what I call it, Bobs filter behaves something like a PST Etalon , having a good side and a not so good side
o.k. lets get started
first go monday 5th january ,with the WO 110, stoppend down to 90mm giving something like f/7,3
My standard CaK filter set
only Bob filter
bob filter with K-line as a prefilter
bob with CaK PST #1 +K-line
Bob-Luntstack-K-line
LUNTstack-CaKPST#1- Kline
PSTCAK#1-K-line- PSTCAK3#1
Lunt Stack-PST CaK#1-K-Line_PSt CaK#1
Bob-PSTCaK#1
Bob_K-line_PSTCak#1
Skybender Bob_PSTCaK#1
Skybender- bob-K line_ CaK pst#1
Skybender K-Line_Bob
WO110 no stop f/6
luntstack_CaKPST#1-k-line-CaKPST#1
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I'm offline for a SMOKE
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A real labour of love Walter - thanks for sharing the results of your hard work
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Thank you very much Mike
I have to open a new answer. I have been stopped by the amount of pics. So I'll restart after 115704
I have to open a new answer. I have been stopped by the amount of pics. So I'll restart after 115704
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Here we go for the next part
skybender bob-k-line- CaKPST#1
Skybender K-Line- Bob
WO110 full opening
PSTCak#1 K-line- Ca-PST#1
Luntsack-PSTCaK#1-K-Line_ PSTCaK#1
Bob K-line _CaK-PST#1
Bob filter tilted fix
inverse bob-tilted fix
now 127 / f10
skybender bob-k-line- CaKPST#1
Skybender K-Line- Bob
WO110 full opening
PSTCak#1 K-line- Ca-PST#1
Luntsack-PSTCaK#1-K-Line_ PSTCaK#1
Bob K-line _CaK-PST#1
Bob filter tilted fix
inverse bob-tilted fix
now 127 / f10
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Thank you very much, Walter for your titanic labor work. It is clear now what is what.
Only few questions remain:
1. What were the gamma setting for this experiment?
2. Does the Skybender consists it's own CaK filter?
3. What is your regular filter combo for CaK imaging?
4. Can you make one more experiment - Bob's filter alone with and without tilt and at maximum contrast gamma setting?
Valery.
Only few questions remain:
1. What were the gamma setting for this experiment?
2. Does the Skybender consists it's own CaK filter?
3. What is your regular filter combo for CaK imaging?
4. Can you make one more experiment - Bob's filter alone with and without tilt and at maximum contrast gamma setting?
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Another my thought - I still believe, that Omega Bob's filter can be used for large scale high resolution imaging
in the CaK instead of full disk imaging. For this it must be placed as the last element in the optical train, after a
barlow lens, near camera (as near as possible).
Valery.
in the CaK instead of full disk imaging. For this it must be placed as the last element in the optical train, after a
barlow lens, near camera (as near as possible).
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Very interesting set of images Walter. Sadly it has confirmed what I thought might be the case...
Did you overexpose any shots with Bobs filter to see if we have any ghosts with it.
Thank you for all your hard work with this.
Did you overexpose any shots with Bobs filter to see if we have any ghosts with it.
Thank you for all your hard work with this.
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Walter, thank you for this info, really appreciated and well done!
I have two questions if you do not mind:
1.) I could not figure out why you needed to tilt the Omega Bob filter?
2.) Question that I have been thinking for a while, now that you have the Omega filter. Do you think it can be successfully double stacked for imaging?
I have two questions if you do not mind:
1.) I could not figure out why you needed to tilt the Omega Bob filter?
2.) Question that I have been thinking for a while, now that you have the Omega filter. Do you think it can be successfully double stacked for imaging?
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Re: Omega bob's CaK filter
Tilting is to throw the reflections.
I don't think I would buy one of them, let alone get 2 for double stacking. Double stacked that uneven illumination is just going to be worse...
I don't think I would buy one of them, let alone get 2 for double stacking. Double stacked that uneven illumination is just going to be worse...
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Hi Valery, Mark and Brett thank you very much
some of the questions are already answered by Mark.
I have informed Bob well ahead of publishing these pics. He is on the way to find out what exactly the issue is. I can only speculate, my Money is on an uneven sputtering of the layers (something like the Daystar Quark etalons suffered from for a short time).
Valery the Gamma used is usually 800-1000. I adjust the gamma on the monitor to give me the best looking life view. By most of the pics with the Bobfilter I had to use Gamma 512 , which is the lowest, to give at least some contrast.
some of the questions are already answered by Mark.
I have informed Bob well ahead of publishing these pics. He is on the way to find out what exactly the issue is. I can only speculate, my Money is on an uneven sputtering of the layers (something like the Daystar Quark etalons suffered from for a short time).
Valery the Gamma used is usually 800-1000. I adjust the gamma on the monitor to give me the best looking life view. By most of the pics with the Bobfilter I had to use Gamma 512 , which is the lowest, to give at least some contrast.
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Re: Omega bob's CaK filter
Wow - gamma 512 is VERY low ........... don't think I have ever captured at that setting
I find that I am often disappointed with the results when I use settings which make the image look good ON THE SCREEN with the GS3 so I have been running a few experiments to determine what works best with my scopes and my usual processing routine.
I usually frame and focus at G=800 where the image looks good on the screen and then capture at G=1000 (or 900-950 in poor seeing).
This seems to produce the best results with my 'off the shelf' Lunt CaK1200.
I'm not sure if you used a standard Lunt unit in your trial?
I compared a couple of my images taken on the 4th Jan with your set and mine seem to be quite similar to your 'standard filter stack' - whatever that is?
Thanks again for sharing your experience and expertise Walter - it is saving me vast amounts of money experimenting with filters in an attempt to improve my results
I find that I am often disappointed with the results when I use settings which make the image look good ON THE SCREEN with the GS3 so I have been running a few experiments to determine what works best with my scopes and my usual processing routine.
I usually frame and focus at G=800 where the image looks good on the screen and then capture at G=1000 (or 900-950 in poor seeing).
This seems to produce the best results with my 'off the shelf' Lunt CaK1200.
I'm not sure if you used a standard Lunt unit in your trial?
I compared a couple of my images taken on the 4th Jan with your set and mine seem to be quite similar to your 'standard filter stack' - whatever that is?
Thanks again for sharing your experience and expertise Walter - it is saving me vast amounts of money experimenting with filters in an attempt to improve my results
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Thanks for informing Bob. I wonder if he could get this sorted out if he would send us a replacement filter?
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Re: Omega bob's CaK filter
Bob's filter with a K line looks alright for those on a tight budget (if they have the K line already). Certainly is seems that if you only have £200 I would buy a bob filter rather than a Baader K line on it's own as you will see more structure.
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Hi Mike, Brett and Alexandra
thank you very much
@Mike and Valery My Standard set up is the LUNT CaK wedge B1200, followed by a K-Line, a CaK-PST#1 and a TS UV/IR cut filter
After having done these experimental shots, I'll switch to the following combination as my new standard:
starting from the objective : UV/IR cut 2" Beloptik, one hot mirror of the LUNT CaK wege B1200, PST CaK #1, distance 50 mm, PST CaK #1, LUNT CaK stack, UV/IR cut 1,25" from Beloptik on the camera nose. So it is a tripple stack with almost no ghosting. You can use the same setup without the LUNT CaK stack with almost the same results
thank you very much
@Mike and Valery My Standard set up is the LUNT CaK wedge B1200, followed by a K-Line, a CaK-PST#1 and a TS UV/IR cut filter
After having done these experimental shots, I'll switch to the following combination as my new standard:
starting from the objective : UV/IR cut 2" Beloptik, one hot mirror of the LUNT CaK wege B1200, PST CaK #1, distance 50 mm, PST CaK #1, LUNT CaK stack, UV/IR cut 1,25" from Beloptik on the camera nose. So it is a tripple stack with almost no ghosting. You can use the same setup without the LUNT CaK stack with almost the same results
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Hi Markmarktownley wrote:Very interesting set of images Walter. Sadly it has confirmed what I thought might be the case...
Did you overexpose any shots with Bobs filter to see if we have any ghosts with it.
Thank you for all your hard work with this.
yes I did, but did not record it, because there was only one small prom on the westside. the new setup showes hardly any ghosting, the Bob filter did not introduce more gosting. Of course I have to wait for a good limb with proms , then I can conform or not
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Montana wrote:Bob's filter with a K line looks alright for those on a tight budget (if they have the K line already). Certainly is seems that if you only have £200 I would buy a bob filter rather than a Baader K line on it's own as you will see more structure.
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you are absolutely right, as soon as bob has sorted out the reason of the "banding" on his filter
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Hi BrettBrett wrote:Thanks for informing Bob. I wonder if he could get this sorted out if he would send us a replacement filter?
I'm sure he will sort that out. Just leave him some time to do the job
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Hi Mikegrimble_cornet wrote:Wow - gamma 512 is VERY low ........... don't think I have ever captured at that setting
I find that I am often disappointed with the results when I use settings which make the image look good ON THE SCREEN with the GS3 so I have been running a few experiments to determine what works best with my scopes and my usual processing routine.
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This seems to produce the best results with my 'off the shelf' Lunt CaK1200.
I'm not sure if you used a standard Lunt unit in your trial?
I compared a couple of my images taken on the 4th Jan with your set and mine seem to be quite similar to your 'standard filter stack' - whatever that is?
Thanks again for sharing your experience and expertise Walter - it is saving me vast amounts of money experimenting with filters in an attempt to improve my results
the standard Lunt CaK B1200 wedge is a wonderful filter set. I thought, it is the best we can get, until Mark T. jumped into my garden, grabbed my scope, added a CaK PST #1 filter and dang ;-).
As soon as I get my promissed 14mm filter fittings I can report on double stacked LUNT CaK filterstacks. I guess my supplier fears the results and therefore is postponing the delivery date almost every month
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Hi ValeryValery wrote:Thank you very much, Walter for your titanic labor work. It is clear now what is what.
Only few questions remain:
1. What were the gamma setting for this experiment?
2. Does the Skybender consists it's own CaK filter?
3. What is your regular filter combo for CaK imaging?
4. Can you make one more experiment - Bob's filter alone with and without tilt and at maximum contrast gamma setting?
Valery.
thank you very much
#1 was answered but I will publish the Gamma and exposure time for each avi that was stacked and published
#2 the Skybender 1,25" Version and the 2" Version come without any filters at all . You mount the filters you want to play with
#3 see my answer in that thread to Mike
#4 I did make the runs already (with and without tilt) , about the gammy, see my list which will be soon published
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Hi ValeryValery wrote:Another my thought - I still believe, that Omega Bob's filter can be used for large scale high resolution imaging
in the CaK instead of full disk imaging. For this it must be placed as the last element in the optical train, after a
barlow lens, near camera (as near as possible).
Valery.
an interesting thought. But why should I get an filter with banding, which works only in a certain Situation/configuration if I can get a filter (CaK PST #1 or LUNT filterstack) which work almost perfect in any situation ?
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I've just designed it now on the computer, i'll laser cut it in the morning and post it saturday. Expect delivery in Wolfhalden early next week.swisswalter wrote:As soon as I get my promissed 14mm filter fittings I can report on double stacked LUNT CaK filterstacks. I guess my supplier fears the results and therefore is postponing the delivery date almost every month
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Because the filters in the Lunt or the coronado are a completely different design than Bobs... Bobs are designed for energy rejection rather than to be used in a visual / imaging context.swisswalter wrote:But why should I get an filter with banding, which works only in a certain Situation/configuration if I can get a filter (CaK PST #1 or LUNT filterstack) which work almost perfect in any situation ?
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Maybe i'm being too critical here, but i'm not sure I agree with this. I think there is not a huge difference between the detail with a K-line and the Bob, but the Baader will certainly give a much sharper and even image. Especially knowing you had gamma down in the 500s, says to me there's not much contrast there in the first place with the Bob...swisswalter wrote:Montana wrote:Bob's filter with a K line looks alright for those on a tight budget (if they have the K line already). Certainly is seems that if you only have £200 I would buy a bob filter rather than a Baader K line on it's own as you will see more structure.
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Hi Walter,swisswalter wrote:Hi ValeryValery wrote:Another my thought - I still believe, that Omega Bob's filter can be used for large scale high resolution imaging
in the CaK instead of full disk imaging. For this it must be placed as the last element in the optical train, after a
barlow lens, near camera (as near as possible).
Valery.
an interesting thought. But why should I get an filter with banding, which works only in a certain Situation/configuration if I can get a filter (CaK PST #1 or LUNT filterstack) which work almost perfect in any situation ?
You personally don't need to do so for YOUR imaging practice. I mean that it is worth to do as the test of capability of using Bob's
for CaK imaging. At least several peoples are waiting for your conclusion - is it worth to buy this Bob's filter for CaK imaging.
And my limited experience with CaK imaging tells me that the best what can be achieved with this filter is to image in high a resolution
mode when the filter is the rear element and as near to the camera as possible.
Thanks,
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Hi Mark, Hi Valery
thank you very much.
@Mark Ah, great to hear about the filter housing
@Valery I'm sure you have read inbetween the lines, on top of that, the pics speak a clear language
thank you very much.
@Mark Ah, great to hear about the filter housing
@Valery I'm sure you have read inbetween the lines, on top of that, the pics speak a clear language
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Walter, you stated that the performance of the Bob filter was not dependent on the f ratio. Did you verify this? What was the longest focal length that you attempted to use the filter on?
Reason for my question is that, maybe due the Bob filter having a different coating and design, that the focal ratio might play a bigger role than we are aware of. I would like to see how the banding issue is influenced when you take a test at about f/25 to f/30?
Reason for my question is that, maybe due the Bob filter having a different coating and design, that the focal ratio might play a bigger role than we are aware of. I would like to see how the banding issue is influenced when you take a test at about f/25 to f/30?
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Hi Brett
thank you very much. I used only f/6 f/7,3 and f/10. It does not make sense to me to use f/25 or f/30 for a full disk shot. I was expecting that the 2A filter is performing like or outperforming the CaK PST #1 or the LUNT CaK stack, neighter of that was true. On top of that, if the filter showes banding at f/6 through f/10 it will show it at f/40.
thank you very much. I used only f/6 f/7,3 and f/10. It does not make sense to me to use f/25 or f/30 for a full disk shot. I was expecting that the 2A filter is performing like or outperforming the CaK PST #1 or the LUNT CaK stack, neighter of that was true. On top of that, if the filter showes banding at f/6 through f/10 it will show it at f/40.
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Hi Mark,marktownley wrote:
Maybe i'm being too critical here, but i'm not sure I agree with this. I think there is not a huge difference between the detail with a K-line and the Bob, but the Baader will certainly give a much sharper and even image. Especially knowing you had gamma down in the 500s, says to me there's not much contrast there in the first place with the Bob...
I saw one of Walter's CaK photo taken through a 6" refractor and 5A DayStar filter. The details are great.
So, if Bob's CaK filters have <4A FWHM and the base of their transmission is like in DayStar filter, then these
filters can be used for CaK imaging. If they are not of very high optically, then they need to be used very near
the focal plane and better after a Barlow lens.
I bet, that Bob's Ca K Walter tested, can be used near focal plane in resulting F/20 or slower.
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Hi Valery,Valery wrote:Hi Mark,
I saw one of Walter's CaK photo taken through a 6" refractor and 5A DayStar filter. The details are great.
So, if Bob's CaK filters have <4A FWHM and the base of their transmission is like in DayStar filter, then these
filters can be used for CaK imaging. If they are not of very high optically, then they need to be used very near
the focal plane and better after a Barlow lens.
I bet, that Bob's Ca K Walter tested, can be used near focal plane in resulting F/20 or slower.
Valery.
Don't get me wrong, I want these filters to be a success but i've seen no images from them yet that would make me want to go out and buy one. Any results from yours yet?
Mark
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marktownley wrote:Valery wrote: Any results from yours yet?
Mark
Not yet.
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Interesting thread, I was certainly contemplating Bob's CaK filter behind my Beloptic Triband ERF. Doesn't seem like a good idea. It is probably better to go towards a B1200 CaK (or even just a B600 in my 80mm F/6)
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