December 16 2021 Observations. Counting Sunspots!
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December 16 2021 Observations. Counting Sunspots!
Session time is from 16:30 until 17:36 UTC. Intermittent. The skies are mostly cloudy and the seeing is a bit below average. The temperature is 62F ( 16.6C ). Breezy.
Orion 70mm Solar Telescope. 25x, 50x and 62.5x ( WL )
Today I concentrated on counting spots on the white light solar disc. AR12907,08 and 09 are lined up in the SE quadrant. AR12906 lies at the CLM southwest of those and AR12905 lies NW of AR12906 just below the solar equator. North of AR12905 across the equator lies AR12910. I found it almost impossible to get a constant count. I got 28 at 25x. 40 at 50x and 43 spots at 62.5x. I averaged around 36 spots. I still at best fell 9 spots behind Terry's reported SWL 52 spots.
This is surprisingly hard to do accurately!!
James
Orion 70mm Solar Telescope. 25x, 50x and 62.5x ( WL )
Today I concentrated on counting spots on the white light solar disc. AR12907,08 and 09 are lined up in the SE quadrant. AR12906 lies at the CLM southwest of those and AR12905 lies NW of AR12906 just below the solar equator. North of AR12905 across the equator lies AR12910. I found it almost impossible to get a constant count. I got 28 at 25x. 40 at 50x and 43 spots at 62.5x. I averaged around 36 spots. I still at best fell 9 spots behind Terry's reported SWL 52 spots.
This is surprisingly hard to do accurately!!
James
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Re: December 16 2021 Observations. Counting Sunspots!
It's a bunch whatever the number is! Nice report!
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Re: December 16 2021 Observations. Counting Sunspots!
Thanks James and yes I imagine that counting so many spots would be hard unless one has a large scope for a close up count.
Even with the highest-resolution SDO images, which I usually use, zooming in by cropping or if the pc has the zoom tool, it is still very difficult.
Good effort for the various counts you got, so well done.
Terry
Even with the highest-resolution SDO images, which I usually use, zooming in by cropping or if the pc has the zoom tool, it is still very difficult.
Good effort for the various counts you got, so well done.
Terry
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Re: December 16 2021 Observations. Counting Sunspots!
I also got those NE pores but totally overlooked those pores on the NW limb!! If I could have seen them at all using the Orion70.
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Losmandy AZ8 Alt/Az Mount
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Re: December 16 2021 Observations. Counting Sunspots!
Of course always weather permitting and here - no chance again.
I certainly want to get one of the scopes or the spotting-scope to an area where the Sun can get through as soon as, but not hopeful when...
Even a chance at viewing or get some snaps of Comet Leonard is simply not yet availabubble...
I certainly want to get one of the scopes or the spotting-scope to an area where the Sun can get through as soon as, but not hopeful when...
Even a chance at viewing or get some snaps of Comet Leonard is simply not yet availabubble...
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Re: December 16 2021 Observations. Counting Sunspots!
Terry,
You are an aircraft fan and can fly. Maybe an airborne solar observatory is in order? It may get you above the clouds! I don’t think an amateur has ever done an airborne observatory before.
James
You are an aircraft fan and can fly. Maybe an airborne solar observatory is in order? It may get you above the clouds! I don’t think an amateur has ever done an airborne observatory before.
James
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Astro-Tech AT72EDII with Altair solar wedge
Celestron NexStar 102GT with Altair solar wedge
Losmandy AZ8 Alt/Az Mount
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Re: December 16 2021 Observations. Counting Sunspots!
What a great challenge James and very interesting about the spot counts at different magnifications. It would only be expected that the more mag the more spots. But that gives us food for thought about historic spot counts and how accurate they would be, the variances could be telescope and magnification dependent.
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Re: December 16 2021 Observations. Counting Sunspots!
An hour well spent James, would love to see all this activity we have at the moment...
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Re: December 16 2021 Observations. Counting Sunspots!
Montana wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 8:41 am What a great challenge James and very interesting about the spot counts at different magnifications. It would only be expected that the more mag the more spots. But that gives us food for thought about historic spot counts and how accurate they would be, the variances could be telescope and magnification dependent.
Alexandra
Seeing could play a role too as it often varies from minute to minute. It’s also hard to tell what’s a spot and what is not. Some spots run together and then there are those multi-umbra spots that share a penumbra. Counting spots in number is surprisingly difficult, or is for me but heck I am up for a challenge!
James
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Re: December 16 2021 Observations. Counting Sunspots!
You are welcome Maurits. So far I am under clouds today.
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Re: December 16 2021 Observations. Counting Sunspots!
Exactly as yourself and Alexandra have said, so weather conditions will need to be very calm, as well as scope/magnification too, but as you are in the lead with your counting James, you may well be the winner with the most accurate count (nearly).
Perhaps somebody with good weather (Pedro standards apply) and getting some close-up's of all the AR's to gain a more accurate count and might beat you...
Terry
Perhaps somebody with good weather (Pedro standards apply) and getting some close-up's of all the AR's to gain a more accurate count and might beat you...
Terry
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Re: December 16 2021 Observations. Counting Sunspots!
I would only have a chance against Pedro if I had good seeing and was using my Celestron 102.
Lunt 8x32 SUNoculars
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Meade Coronado SolarMax II 90 DS
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Astro-Tech AT72EDII with Altair solar wedge
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Losmandy AZ8 Alt/Az Mount
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Losmandy AZ8 Alt/Az Mount
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