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Hello everybody

I promised Alexandra and Brian to take a photo of noctilucent clouds. They appeared on June 26 around 23:00 local time. I got them until 01:14 on June 27th. Difference from UTC minus 3 hours.

Western direction.

During the day I was so tired that I did not go outside, I was filming from an open window. Therefore, my review was limited.

In general, a smartphone camera is the last thing worth shooting such things, but where I am now I don't have a DSLR.

Therefore, I apologize for the quality. And one more thing, because I made too many frames, then I ask for advice, after they hang for a couple of days, can I or the administrator delete them so as not to overload the storage?

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Re: Noctilucent clouds

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Northwest direction.
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Excellent set of NLC captures Ivan.
Any/most cameras should be capable of catching these - so no expensive cameras will likely take better photos than the ones you have so well taken.

This recent occasion of NLC's as far south as the med/S.Europe, is quite rare, so well done on your capture..

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Re: Noctilucent clouds

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Thanks, Terry

At this point, I wanted a DSLR on a tripod that would allow me to capture more detail and make a gif.

These clouds are not uncommon at our latitude, if in winter it is clear (which is rare) they can also be seen.

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Wow!! :hamster: :hamster: :hamster:

Fabulous images, they are so beautiful, I think just as special as aurora.

I've been unlucky so far, cloudy every time I have looked out. Last night I woke at the right time, it was perfectly clear for change, but no noctilucents :(

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Montana wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 5:30 pm Wow!! :hamster: :hamster: :hamster:

Fabulous images, they are so beautiful, I think just as special as aurora.

I've been unlucky so far, cloudy every time I have looked out. Last night I woke at the right time, it was perfectly clear for change, but no noctilucents :(

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Thank you, Alexandra

Sooner or later, you will be lucky anyway. The northern lights are not so contrasting and bright, (on the brightest of sulfur in our widest range) and are very rare here.

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Great shots of the noctilucient clouds Ivan :bow

Thanks for posting these!!!

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Re: Noctilucent clouds

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Excellent, Ivan.
My wife and I have tried on multiple occasions to see noctilucent clouds this season and last season without any luck so far. We’ve driven out of town into the countryside at all hours of the night to give us the best possible chance of seeing something, but to no avail. Our neighbours must wonder what we’re up to :lol: :lol:

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Carbon60 wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:17 pm Excellent, Ivan.
My wife and I have tried on multiple occasions to see noctilucent clouds this season and last season without any luck so far. We’ve driven out of town into the countryside at all hours of the night to give us the best possible chance of seeing something, but to no avail. Our neighbours must wonder what we’re up to :lol: :lol:

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Thanks, Stu. Luck will definitely smile at you, you will see them.

At our latitude, they can be observed quite often.

I shot from a rather dark area of the city, but this is not the outskirts, although locally it is certainly darker here than in the city center.

Yaroslavl quite a large city according to data for 2015 it is 8-9 points on the Bortle scale.
If there are noctilucent clouds, then urban light usually does not interfere, but, of course, it is much better to observe from the countryside.

I will try to take some pictures from the central and very bright areas of the city.

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On the night of July 4, these beautiful creatures of microscopic ice floes reappeared. But this time I had a DSLR. Exposure for a couple of shots is 2 seconds, but there are so many details.
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Nice shots of the noctilucient clouds :bow

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Superb, Ivan.

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Phenomenal :bow :bow :bow

I'm having the worst NCL season for years, not seen any. Not because there aren't any but it has been cloudy for every night of June and now July so far :( when will it end! so thanks for keeping me sane :)

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Brian, Stu, Alexandra, thank you for your interest and kind words.

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There is nothing at hand except a smartphone camera, and there are noctilucent clouds in the sky. Sorry for the quality.

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Beautiful!!! thank you so much for the views :bow2

I'm having a bad year for NCLs, not a single sighting. Cloudy for every single night in June, except for the one clear night which also had NCLs and I fell asleep. Cloudy all through July up until last Thursday since then I have been getting up every night and seen clear skies but no NCLs :(

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Montana wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:08 am Beautiful!!! thank you so much for the views :bow2 ...
Alexandra, thanks for your comment and kind words. I really want you to be very lucky to see them this season. Good luck and clear skies.

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Thank you Ivan for your new excellent NLC images.

Rare to get these in S.E.England, but have imaged them in the past...

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Due to the cloudy weather this season, I have observed this phenomenon only three times.

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Fabulous Ivan :hamster: :hamster: :hamster: I've been looking but it has even been either cloudy or they aren't there :(

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Today again we were pleased with the silvery clouds. We are hot and clear. The photo clearly shows the difference between them and high cumulus clouds.

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Nice to see more updates Ivan :bow

I have only witnessed the NLC once, and that was through the window of an airplane. My wife and I flew to Scotland in the later part of July in 2019 and they were present most of the night time flight. I chose a window seat in hopes of seeing the aurora, but got an extra treat that night. This was the view out over the wing:
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You are fortunate to see them form thew ground...my view was rather expensive :lol:

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Thanks Brian for the great photo! It should be an unforgettable sight, although, of course, expensive :)

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Wow!! these clouds are as good as an aurora :hamster: :hamster: :hamster:

I got an alert from Scotland last night but it was cloudy here, so I am glad you saw them Ivan, thanks for the view :bow2

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There are fewer of them today than yesterday, and the main front has shifted north than usual.

On this day (almost :)) a year ago, I started this topic :)

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That's fab Ivan :hamster: we had reports here in the UK last night again too. I am under cursed cloud and I am fast asleep, I need to get my alarm going again :)

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Today they reappeared.
There are more of them than yesterday. By the way, yesterday, no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't get a photo, because there were very few of them and they were mostly near the horizon and almost merged with the bright sky.
It's a pity that there is no DSLR at hand, because my camera on the phone does not cope well.
A small evolution in 30 minutes.

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Very nice indeed Ivan :hamster: :hamster: :hamster: what latitude are you? I need to look on a map. I am at 53N and had no luck yet this year, mainly due to weather and falling asleep :)

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Thank you, Alexandra!

I'm at 57.6N. My daughter falls asleep for a very long time, so I have time :)
These photos were taken from 01 to 01:30 at night. At this time of the year, the nights are short and bright. Therefore, the contrast in the photo is weak.

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Hi all!
Although most likely hello Alexandra :bow

Today NCLs again pleased me with their appearance. This season, they are located quite far from me and are visible near the horizon, so they have low contrast.
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Even today I observed quite interesting clouds, which at my own peril and risk I identified as Cirrus Radiatus.
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:hamster: :hamster: :hamster: superb! the NCL looks like the Nexus in Star Trek - Generations :)

The normal clouds are amazing!! Rainer is our resident cloud expert, maybe he can confirm the classification :)

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I haven't seen NCL for 3 or 4 days. They showed up again tonight. It was a wide front that stretched from west to east, it was very massive and was close to me. I took a picture from the 8th floor, and most of it didn't get into the frame because of the house on the right. I was shooting on a DSLR and used a shutter speed of about 2 seconds.

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This latest shot is great Ivan...thanks for sharing your views :bow

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:hamster: :hamster: :hamster: fabulous!!!

So much cloud here it is frustrating :(

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Hi, everybody,
NCL is much smaller today.

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Lovely shot!!

I looked last night around 2am but it was thick cloud again, it was clear when I went to bed :( no luck this year at all.

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Hi, everybody,
Photo from July 10. It was cloudy tonight and I couldn't take a photo.

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Noctilucent clouds are rare at my latitude of 35 degrees north. I do remember seeing them a couple of times back in the 1980s. I remember seeing them in the winter.

I do wonder if I have confused them for high thin cirrus clouds in the years since. They do look similar but yet different.


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You seem to be in the perfect place Ivan, that's another great shot :hamster: do you find them more easy to see in the evening or early morning? I've never seen them in the evening, only early morning before dawn. However, this year nothing at all as it is permanently cloudy ;)

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Hello Alexandra and James,
Thanks for watching. My latitude of 57.6 is considered one of the best for NCL observations. They are being watched by enthusiasts from the local university. And the rest of the people haven't even heard what it is :)
DeepSolar64 wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:02 pm Noctilucent clouds are rare at my latitude of 35 degrees north. I do remember seeing them a couple of times back in the 1980s. I remember seeing them in the winter.

I do wonder if I have confused them for high thin cirrus clouds in the years since. They do look similar but yet different.
James, yes, I know that the further south, the more difficult it is to observe NCL, and from a certain latitude they do not meet at all. You can confuse them with high thin cirrus clouds due to inexperience, but if there are both NCL and cirrus clouds in the sky, then you immediately understand the huge difference. NCL literally glow, while other clouds are much darker.

Montana wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:14 am You seem to be in the perfect place Ivan, that's another great shot :hamster: do you find them more easy to see in the evening or early morning? I've never seen them in the evening, only early morning before dawn. However, this year nothing at all as it is permanently cloudy ;)

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Alexandra, more often I see them in the evening, the interval of their visibility is about two or three hours, then they disappear or lose a lot of contrast. In the morning I saw rather a hint of NCL, it's rather a light barely perceptible fabric. I hope the weather will allow you to see them soon.



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That’s what I remember. The sky was almost dark but these thin cirruslike clouds glowed a bright blue color.


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DeepSolar64 wrote: Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:52 pm That’s what I remember. The sky was almost dark but these thin cirruslike clouds glowed a bright blue color.
It was them, James.

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Hi, everybody,

Yesterday we spent the evening enjoying NCL. I've seen quite a lot of them, but what happened yesterday is just amazing!
A huge front of dense, textured, shining clouds hung over us. I was delighted, and although the phone's camera is a pathetic device for transmitting this riot of semitones, and for lack of a DSLR, I tried to make good shots.
I hope you enjoy it.

Image2022-07-15_22:30_NCL by Ivan Sirotin, on Flickr

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Image2022-07-16_10-24-44 by Ivan Sirotin, on Flickr

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Ivan,
In recent years the iPhones camera has gotten better and better. While it won’t match a good DSLR or mirrorless camera it’s quite capable even in low light. I’ve successfully done constellation photography with mine and it does well on clouds too. My new iPhone 13 Pro Max even has a macro mode!

Other companies like Samsung, Google and Motorola have also really upped their camera tech in recent years.

Has the embargoes on Russia made new iPhones hard to get?

Nice pics too!!

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Thank you, James

You can buy iPhones from us, although Apple has officially closed its stores. The price in rubles for the iPhone 13 ProMax is the same as for the Lunt50. But Lunt does not buy :(I had an iPhone 4, I know that these are very good devices, but expensive. I use Samsung 32.

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WOW!! these are your best display and images so far, you are so lucky!! I wish I could have been there to see them too :hamster:

Still cloudy here every night, it is even worse than last year :( we are expecting a heatwave over the next few days, they say up to 41 degrees :shock: considering that here in Manchester the temperature has never been above 32 degrees since records began this is quite disturbing. Considering our wildlife etc have never experienced this ever and no one has air conditioning it is going to be interesting how this pans out. Climate change? no one seems to believe in that, and is moaning about how we can have cheaper petrol :(

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Hi Ivan...

The latest pics look terrific, you certainly have a prime location to view from!

Alexandra, I see on the news that the UK has record heat and more on the way...I don't suppose air conditioning in homes/workplaces is as common as here in Canada/US?

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No Brian, not at all. We have had official warnings from work to not use the tissue culture labs at work if possible. The labs have passive air conditioning, an environmental system using flow of air through the roof. The thermal loading of machines and having to wear lab coats etc would be horrendous. This has never happened in all of my career. We have had hot summers and inside gets to 37 degrees when outside is 29-30. But for outside to be 41 degrees!! I'm working from home anyway at the moment as I can't go in due to having the strongest lateral flow line ever today (Covid-19), it was 3x stronger than the control :lol:

With climate change we will all be migrating northwards Ivan :)

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new 2023 ncl season!

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