Solar Toolbox for PixInsigth

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Solar Toolbox for PixInsigth

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Solar Toolbox for PixInsigth

Solar Toolbox Pixinsight Repository Link: (copy address link as shown in video)
For Pixinsight version 1.8.9-2 - build 1597 or higher!
https://www.cosmicphotons.com/pi-modules/solartoolbox/

Solar processing made easy using the Solar Toolbox Process for Pixinsight
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Hi Pedro,
I watched the entire video yesterday. It seemed to me that most of what had been created in this Solar Toolbox could be replicated in Photoshop.
Nonetheless it is great to see another tool available.
I currently do not use Pixinsight. Is it a free program?

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pdmphoton wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 4:52 pm Hi Pedro,
I watched the entire video yesterday. It seemed to me that most of what had been created in this Solar Toolbox could be replicated in Photoshop.
Nonetheless it is great to see another tool available.
I currently do not use Pixinsight. Is it a free program?

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Pixinsight is not free, but I believe there is a free trial. I have not been successful in loading this into my Pixinsight to try.

Pedro, have you successfully loaded this into Pixinsight? I have tried a number of times and it keeps telling me it is not able to access it. I'll try it with the link you provided.


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Tried again and can't get the script loaded.

Edit: OK, had to uninstall PI and reinstall it and now I have it working. I can see some potential for sure, particularly for coloring an image and possibly for bringing out proms a bit. Will look forward to playing with it with some RAW images once I get back to my equipment...in a month!


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Thanks Pedro!


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I agree that most can be replicated in PS, nevertheless it is a great tool for those of us that use PixInsigth (it is not a fee program and it has a steep leaning curve). The script can be found after installation in the process tab
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I think the Solar Toolbox process for Pixinsight is a lot more powerful than Photoshop for a number of reasons, the main one is how we stretch the prominence from within the shadows. Our script can do this without sacrificing contrast after boosting. Doing normal curve stretches like in PS or ImPPG, etc while keeping both prominences and solar surface in-phase has a tendency to lose contrast on the boosted prominences itself. This is why a lot of people tend to invert the image to expose hidden prominences then do strong curve stretches that tend to inverse the polarity of the sun surface. There is nothing wrong with this method, but one of the goals of the Solar Toolbox was to keep things in-phase. Also, we do a lot of different contrast enhancements with masking features, plus colorization and sharpening. Yes, these can be gone in Photoshop too, but this can take a lot of time and out sharpening method does not clip whereas in PS it can. The Solar Toolbox is simple to use and can be viewed in real-time and images can be made within a few minutes. Plus, using this script along with Image containers, you can output a series of images for timelapse purposes. Is this tool perfect, no, nothing in life is, but it is a simple tool to help people process images and get DSO imagers into this hobby :-) I really hope people on this forum posts pictures on this thread and also give feedback because we want to make this better. I think it works pretty good as is, but feedback is always key to improving a new and free product :-)

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Thanks for the clarification Bill


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Thanks to Ralph Smith for supplying me with some RAW stacked TIF's to play with Solar Toolbox. This is a raw, prom shot only that I just played with and I will say it is fun to use this tool, particularly with the Preview Box so you can see all of the changes before you actually apply the final settings to the image. The great thing is, you can just about do all of your processing in one step after stacking. The only portion I had an issue with was the Prominence Mask not taking the black out disk all the way to the limb. I think this had to do with the existence of a bit of surface detail in the raw image that the software recognized and stopped the black out short of the actual limb. Bill might be able to comment as to how I might have overcome that, maybe with a stretch prior to adding the mask, so I'll have to experiment a bit more. But the sharpening is great as well as the prom boost. Again, the best feature is being able to watch the changes being made to the image live before you even apply them.

Ralph's Raw Prom Image
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Image after applying changes in Solar Toolbox
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Image after tweaking the Solar Toolbox image in Photoshop
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This is another of Ralph's raw images that includes the surface with the same prom. I could not quite get the same sharpening on the prom as I could in the prom only shot without making the surface overly sharpened, and again, this may take more practice and Bill might have some suggestions but it seemed as though the sharpening was mostly applied to the surface rather than the proms even though I had selected Surface and Proms for the processing. Also added a colorized as that is a simple step in Solar Toolbox as well, but I'm still a fan of B&W images.

Ralph's Raw Prom and Surface image
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Image after applying changes in Solar Toolbox
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And Colorized with Solar Toolbox
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Almost makes getting pxinsight worth it!

Thanks for sharing, and tempting us....


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