Whirling Prom Animation 20181007

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Whirling Prom Animation 20181007

Post by Christopher » Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:22 pm

This is my first attempt at a Halpha animation. Data capture was Sunday (10/7) between 1:17 and 2:02PM EDT. I did 10 seconds every minute for 45 minutes and ended up with 23 usable frames as seeing was pretty lousy. Here's the gear list for this capture:
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Constructive criticism highly welcomed!!

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Re: Whirling Prom Animation 20181007

Post by TheSkyBurner » Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:47 pm

awesome! that is an interesting telescope rig you have there.

Since you did such short intervals you maybe can stack all the frames for each video and use hard sharpening on them to construct each individual frame. I would also use AOI method of alignment in registax, this will eliminate that little bit of drift you have left.

Also boost the levels up to make those promincess GLOW!
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what software did you use to process?

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Re: Whirling Prom Animation 20181007

Post by ffellah » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:04 am

Very nicely done, Christopher !

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Re: Whirling Prom Animation 20181007

Post by TheSkyBurner » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:08 am

Yes you picked this event up very greatly!

Look how much detail you have hiding in there.

This one is with heavy 1.3pixel smart sharpen and gamma curve cutting
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Re: Whirling Prom Animation 20181007

Post by Christopher » Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:15 am

Hi Skyburner,
Yes! That’s amazing. I absolutely had a vision of whirling dervishes when I first saw the 45 frames in sequence and your rendition nails it. Thank so much! I used FireCapture, Autostakkert, IMPPG (sharpening), Photoshop (align and animate). I’m sure with time one develops patience but boy I’ll tell you, the first time around I just knew I had something and wanted to see it move :lol: I can see that I way undersharpened. And level adjust totally makes sense. From what you’re saying I gather I could load the 45 final frames in RegiStax and avoid having to manually align them in PS. Is that correct?


Thanks to you Franco!
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Post by TheSkyBurner » Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:28 am

Yes registax can align them all for you, the software can be a PITA on newer machines though. The way I do this, is load each video segment individually in registax. Stack a minimum of 200 frames from each capture segment, then do a basic wavelet sharpening on the stacked image. Then save it as .png file. You want to make sure you use the exact same wavelets for each stacked video frame. You can typically save the wavelets profile you made, and also have the "keep settings" button checked.

Once you get all your frames saved, just open the still images back up in registax and align them one final time and click save registered button after clicking .png. (i recommend registax 5.1 over 6.0) (6.0 is super buggery or drunk.drunk!)

You do not have to apply any wavelets at all in registax and you can save the raw unprocessed images, since you have photoshop you can always edit them in photoshop. I think photoshop has batch sharpening features which make it superior for multiple images, it will just automatically apply the sharp to all the images.. I use registax, gimp, and virtual dub because im stuck with windows Xp and nothing else works for me.

The prominence loops you see on my avatar, took me more than 20 hours of actual processing time, so patience is definitely an order when the software is not doing its job. Between running out of memory, software crashes, misaligned frames, stacking errors, sharpening, gamma tweaking, and computer glitches/ crashes. It was worth every pain staking moment :)

That is the absolute last X-flare of solar max 2018.

Here is a fuller version,.
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Post by TheSkyBurner » Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:32 am

one last note, i use gifmaker.org because it seems like the only animated gif software that lets you have full control over the image sequences speed. I like to set it at 50 for fluidity.

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Re: Whirling Prom Animation 20181007

Post by robert » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:16 pm

Lovely animation and great additions. I would add that ImPPG is very good for aligning frames too, anyhow all very interesting
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Re: Whirling Prom Animation 20181007

Post by Christopher » Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:37 am

Terrific. Many new things to try. I really appreciate all the feedback.
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Post by marktownley » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:33 am

Lovely results Christopher!
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Re: Whirling Prom Animation 20181007

Post by Christopher » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:47 am

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Based on lots of great feedback here I've learned some new techniques and reprocessed this animation. I must say, the event takes on a bit of a different character. Rather than whirling proms, one sees quite clearly the massive double magnetic pulse unleashed through this prom group. Each of those pulses lasts just under 5 minutes in real time and they' occur about 20 minutes apart (the more powerful burst is first in sequence). Makes me wonder what I missed as I got clouded out at the end and still had some SSD space left :roll: This is all 44 frames (good and bad).
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Re: Whirling Prom Animation 20181007

Post by TheSkyBurner » Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:07 am

animations are very addictive. Once you get hooked your never gonna stop ! Just getting the spicule layer spiking up and down is one of the most hypnotic things to watch.

If you make an offband animation of the surface you will see lots of dark clouds doing things you would not see with an on band image. You learn something new with every capture!

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