Full Disc and western surface of sun June 30, 2022
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Full Disc and western surface of sun June 30, 2022
Full disc and western surface of our star june 30, 2022. Two different solar scopes in action. The full disc is captured with my Lunt LS100 and the western surface 2hrs later with our club solar telescope Lunt LS230. Both with the same camera QHY5III174M and inverted. Enjoy it...
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Re: Full Disc and western surface of sun June 30, 2022
WoW, Very nice Ha inverted discs with a lot of relief and fine detail. I love em'!!
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Re: Full Disc and western surface of sun June 30, 2022
Great images Andreas! The 230 is showing a very even field of view. Be interesting to see what could be achieved with it with some barlows and a camera with smaller pixels to capitalise on the resolution potential.
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Re: Full Disc and western surface of sun June 30, 2022
Hi Andreas,
wonderful image!
Do you mind sharing how you colorize your images? I'm both interested in the disc color and in the background.
You definitely start with a more contrasty and detailed images than the ones I take with my Lunt 35, but I just can't get there with the colors.
Thanks.
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wonderful image!
Do you mind sharing how you colorize your images? I'm both interested in the disc color and in the background.
You definitely start with a more contrasty and detailed images than the ones I take with my Lunt 35, but I just can't get there with the colors.
Thanks.
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Re: Full Disc and western surface of sun June 30, 2022
Great pics Andreas!
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Re: Full Disc and western surface of sun June 30, 2022
marktownley wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:29 am Great images Andreas! The 230 is showing a very even field of view. Be interesting to see what could be achieved with it with some barlows and a camera with smaller pixels to capitalise on the resolution potential.
this was with the qhy5III290M without Barlow on our club scope LS230 from sept. 25, 2021.
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Re: Full Disc and western surface of sun June 30, 2022
Is this difficult - to show the correct, uninverted images?
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Re: Full Disc and western surface of sun June 30, 2022
More details can be seen in the inverted shots
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Re: Full Disc and western surface of sun June 30, 2022
Wow! I would also like to know how you processed these images?
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Re: Full Disc and western surface of sun June 30, 2022
Andy, can I point you to a couple of tutorials that may help you
Video by Nic
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Video by Simon2940
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Video by Nic
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Re: Full Disc and western surface of sun June 30, 2022
Quite a weak explanation. OK, no is no. I will no longer look in your threads. I don't like inverted images, I do not count details, especially when they look less than pleasing. I like to see normal images.Andreas Spiering wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:47 pmMore details can be seen in the inverted shots
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Re: Full Disc and western surface of sun June 30, 2022
Valery wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 3:30 pmQuite a weak explanation. OK, no is no. I will no longer look in your threads. I don't like inverted images, I do not count details, especially when they look less than pleasing. I like to see normal images.Andreas Spiering wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:47 pmMore details can be seen in the inverted shots
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Too bad that you approach the misunderstanding like this, but its ok. It is not difficult to create a normal image. That's why I take ImPPG. You can find this in this tutorial by simon2940 at 33:40+. https://youtu.be/-zD4EIGBess
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Re: Full Disc and western surface of sun June 30, 2022
It would be very odd to be admiring the negatives instead of the prints back in the days of film.
Now we are all sensors and digital imaging and processing. So we have a free choice.
Whether "inverted" is right or wrong is a personal opinion.
I lean towards the normal presentation as being "more natural."
Whatever that means in the context of stacking and processing a narrowband video.
Into a sharper, still, B&W image. Or animation, of course.
Let's not forget "the marmalade treatment."
Regardless of the deep red colour we actually capture.
Now we are all sensors and digital imaging and processing. So we have a free choice.
Whether "inverted" is right or wrong is a personal opinion.
I lean towards the normal presentation as being "more natural."
Whatever that means in the context of stacking and processing a narrowband video.
Into a sharper, still, B&W image. Or animation, of course.
Let's not forget "the marmalade treatment."
Regardless of the deep red colour we actually capture.
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Re: Full Disc and western surface of sun June 30, 2022
Let's not forget "the marmalade treatment."
Regardless of the deep red colour we actually capture. ;)_Rusted
Yes, the only truly accurate " Natural " image would be a deep red positive image.
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Re: Full Disc and western surface of sun June 30, 2022
Nice images, Andreas.
Presentation is really just a matter of personal taste and artistic interpretation. Go with what pleases you and others can make up their own mind if they like it or not. I prefer ‘positive’ images, but also appreciate the different perspective that inverted images provide. As for colour…… that’s a whole other topic for discussion.
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Presentation is really just a matter of personal taste and artistic interpretation. Go with what pleases you and others can make up their own mind if they like it or not. I prefer ‘positive’ images, but also appreciate the different perspective that inverted images provide. As for colour…… that’s a whole other topic for discussion.
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Re: Full Disc and western surface of sun June 30, 2022
One can only assume that such an image {dark red] does not satisfy the average producer and processor of solar H-a images.DeepSolar64 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 09, 2022 3:51 amLet's not forget "the marmalade treatment."
Regardless of the deep red colour we actually capture. ;)_Rusted
Yes, the only truly accurate " Natural " image would be a deep red positive image.
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Yet this is exactly what we see at the eyepiece. Which may well explain the increasing popularity of imaging.
"Black and white" images are now a rarity in any other photographic discipline. Usually reserved for extra drama in an "arty" setting.
Meanwhile we continue our anarchistic choices of "orange marmalade." Perhaps we should formally adopt a standard RAL colour?
So as to seem more <cough> serious. Like NASA's solar and deep sky science "artwork?"
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Re: Full Disc and western surface of sun June 30, 2022
Yes there is certainly use for other colorations than red and also a use for inverted images. The most natural is not always the best and then there is the artistic creativity side of solar imaging that should be considered. I certainly love all the different ways the sun is shown here!!
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