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If they were filament roots then they wouldn't come and go so quickly surely ?

Even on the hi-res 4096 x 4096 HMI Continuum data they are not visible 15 minutes either side.


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steveward53 wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 3:07 pm If they were filament roots then they wouldn't come and go so quickly surely ?

Even on the hi-res 4096 x 4096 HMI Continuum data they are not visible 15 minutes either side.
I don't think filament roots would show up at 540nm. Maybe in CaK or CaH or with a Gband filter like the 2nm bandpass one now available. But even that I doubt. Helium or Sodium would be a better bet since they show the photosphere-chromosphere transition region. This would be a good study for one with one of those filters. Mark Townley may have picked up one of these back in 2018 in sodium.

I wonder how a magnesium filter would do?

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rigel123 wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 1:49 pm
Dennis wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:50 am
DeepSolar64 wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:41 am It's nice to hear it's something. It points to at least a genuine phenomenon.
Yes, but this is happening on the photosphere, not in the chromosphere. So no narrow band filter will show you this.
K-line and G-band filters though should pick it up nicely due to the contrast they provide on the granulation.
On other wl-filters you see them too, but not so pronounced. This would be my guess.
I tend to agree with Dennis in that it is an alignment of the granulation and the only way I can think to confirm this would be when you see something like this when imaging you switch to a high res image and capture a series to see if it is a feature that changes rapidly due to the cells evolving or if it is a long lasting phenomenon.


What i mean looks like this in close up (image from today, AR13331, Antlia 393nm; line structure marked in red / without markings):
These are short lived structures (few minutes if at all). I assume the darker colering is due to temerature differences, but not sure.
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Dennis wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 5:31 pm
rigel123 wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 1:49 pm
Dennis wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:50 am

Yes, but this is happening on the photosphere, not in the chromosphere. So no narrow band filter will show you this.
K-line and G-band filters though should pick it up nicely due to the contrast they provide on the granulation.
On other wl-filters you see them too, but not so pronounced. This would be my guess.
I tend to agree with Dennis in that it is an alignment of the granulation and the only way I can think to confirm this would be when you see something like this when imaging you switch to a high res image and capture a series to see if it is a feature that changes rapidly due to the cells evolving or if it is a long lasting phenomenon.


What i mean looks like this in close up (image from today, Antlia 393nm; line structure marked in red / without markings):
That's what I was thinking. If you were zoomed out more the "lines" might be more obvious, but zoomed in it just appears as darker and lighter cells.


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Of course this does not rule out filament roots as would be seen in helium or sodium.


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DeepSolar64 wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 5:43 pm Of course this does not rule out filament roots as would be seen in helium or sodium.
Those wavelengths would definitely cut down on the number of people looking for these structures to compare.


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rigel123 wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 5:48 pm
DeepSolar64 wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 5:43 pm Of course this does not rule out filament roots as would be seen in helium or sodium.
Those wavelengths would definitely cut down on the number of people looking for these structures to compare.
True that. Not many have helium or sodium filters. Or SHG units!


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I'm going to move this thread into the Prominence and filament identification project section for reference tomorrow, you will still be able to comment and accumulate data but I want to archive it there to find it. Just so you know where it is going :)

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Good idea, Alexandra. Thanks.

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Join the fray! You got this started here. Don't stop your imaging concerning this. No one on SC is trying to discredit you, we are just teaming up to find out what this anomaly is. And even if it turns out to be aligned granules, is it by chance? , is it human pattern recognition? Or are they magnetically aligned in some way? More research is needed. And amateurs can do serious research, my friend. Alexandra suggested filaments rooted to the photosphere. Filament attachments. We really don't know.

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Maybe Warren can catch something on his animations. He’s really good at it.

I like how you did your broadband Hb filter. That was innovative! 👍🏻


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What does SHF stand for?


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StarHugger wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 7:46 pm
DeepSolar64 wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 7:26 pm What does SHF stand for?
StarHuggersFilter.

Its my only filter hack, so no fancy edition extensions yet..

We will make other filter cheats, not done...
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I tend to use “ AAs “ or “ Aaron’s Anomalies “. :D


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Hopefully you can take some images tomorrow to compare them to. Save SDO HMI images from time time you image with your equipment and compare them. I usually save images at or close to my session time, whether observing or imaging.


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Hopefully there will be input from others.


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True that. We need more images from ourselves and others, especially some high rez stuff. Something I am not well equipped for.

Comon folks, we have a mystery to solve, to support or debunk. This is where SolarChat can shine. The last time I was on C/N I think the topic had been locked again due to quibbling.


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I hope you mean that you have retreated to here. And yes we do need a group effort to study this phenomenon thoroughly.

Keep up your studies. What is the largest solar capable scope you have? Mine is a 102mm F10 Celestron refractor.


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StarHugger wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 2:52 am
DeepSolar64 wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:53 am I hope you mean that you have retreated to here. And yes we do need a group effort to study this phenomenon thoroughly.

Keep up your studies. What is the largest solar capable scope you have? Mine is a 102mm F10 Celestron refractor.
I am one handed James and spend most of my time in a chair so my scopes are carried by family or are on wheels like me.

Not real open about this because I live beyond it.

I do not plan on returning to CN.


My biggest is the At80ed with my 120mm f10 in the shed because we cannot manage it, the homebrew filter is dark so if some one has an f6 120mm and can do high res fd work that would be really nice to see.

I will remain focused on animations and raw individually processed full resolution images played in sequence when above average seeing allows.

After realizing the morphologies today I have become aware the evolution of morphology "event" from one bow to two and from two to three would be quite the animation captured.


This I now predict could be a driver for particepation and a heck of a prize for the successing imager.


How do the bows become joined, intensify and evolve, this will all be interesting to see....


I understand. The small Astro-Tech refractors are easily managed and therefore perfect for you.

Is your 120mm F10 an older AT achromat?


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Yeah, sell some old gear to buy some new gear. Clean that 120mm refractor up. It should sell, even if it's just the OTA as long as the lens coatings aren't too badly damaged by the mold.

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DeepSolar64 wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:15 am True that. We need more images from ourselves and others, especially some high rez stuff. Something I am not well equipped for.

Comon folks, we have a mystery to solve, to support or debunk. This is where SolarChat can shine. The last time I was on C/N I think the topic had been locked again due to quibbling.
The topic was locked after the true identity/nature of a certain , yet again incognito , individual/antagonist was revealed. (who takes pride in being banned from every site he joins and is banned from here for numerous historical reasons)


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steveward53 wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:59 am
DeepSolar64 wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:15 am True that. We need more images from ourselves and others, especially some high rez stuff. Something I am not well equipped for.

Comon folks, we have a mystery to solve, to support or debunk. This is where SolarChat can shine. The last time I was on C/N I think the topic had been locked again due to quibbling.
The topic was locked after the true identity/nature of a certain , yet again incognito , individual/antagonist was revealed. (who takes pride in being banned from every site he joins and is banned from here for numerous historical reasons)

Doesn’t surprise me.


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I understand...

Check out Christian's recent post. He's found a mysterious feature. I am not saying it's linked to yours but it's just as mysterious.

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You might use the SDO HMImagnetogram PFSS images to see if your arc anomalies line up to a magnetic field line. These images show both the magnetic field lines and polarity of the Sun's electromagnetic features.

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Aaron,
It's posted. I did bring up your " anomalies " in the meeting.

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Interesting Aaron, keep up the observations :) you are always welcome here to pursue your interests :)

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Hi,

I suggest you have a look at this image taken by William Pellisard with a 350 mm Cassegrain :

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There are a lot of random alignements of dark intergranular region. If you reduce the size of this image, and applied a gaussian filter (in order to simulate the resolution you can have with a 60-80 mm telescope), you will get some of the "filaments" visible with much lower resolution.


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Aaron,
Nice work with the new filter!! It'll be only low power 8x32 views for me today. I'll be heading to Lowndesville S.C. to see my dad shortly.

Thanks for your input, Christian. I need to try this with that image when I get a chance, unless Aaron beats me to it.

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We certainly need more high resolution and multi-bandwidth data on this. Thanks Christian.


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StarHugger wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:46 am Wow what a fun sucker hole session 🌞 Today!

Wanted to get experimenting with fishing for arches with the At80ed and get me some SHBES up a little closer.

The big guy I wound up with is almost at full morphology too, so a good specimen indeed.

Started at 4pm and a balmy 80° F, Seeing was horrible but knowing I was only snapping for anomalies I would take any fair shot that exibited them well.

The stage 3 anomally is bottom right and appears headed twoards AR13334 but who really knows, I have traced it and posted it along with its ori...

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I dont see the structure exclusive to the surroundings on this image.. One could also outline a different shape of this one. To me it looks random considering the other structures that are visible on this image. Since its the photosphere i would expect the dark patterns to be darker lines of granulation.

An interesting question is why darker granulation lines up like it does. Im not sure this is already known.


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Aaron, Christian & Dennis,
That’s what I am wondering. Are they random or are they magnetically organized? Are they a chance alignment, an illusion or something more? More overall data is needed from different sources and different imagers. More is needed from us. I hope to do some more imaging work on these anomalies in the near future.

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Discoveries need supporters and researchers, but more than anything they need believers in the possible._StarHugger
What we do have so far though is awareness and some interest, it's a beginning._StarHugger

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Aaron,
What wavelength is this? Wideband Hb? I do see the arc shaped anomaly just east of those two pores in the NW quadrant. It's easy to see! It reminds me of the one Mark Townley imaged in the Sodium D line sometime back but Mark's was between the pores. Hmm..

I did as Christian suggested with the higher resolution image he posted to be used as an example. I downsized it and applied gaussian blur to the image as suggested to lower the resolution. True enough, I can see dark areas that resemble your anomalies that are invisible at higher resolution. This reminds me of the Mars canal phenomenon reported by Giovanni Schiaparelli and Percival Lowell. Viewing Mars they saw linear structures on the planet that appeared as straight lines and Lowell studied them for some fifteen years. Strangely though, some observers could see them while others couldn't. But it was found that when resolution increased they vanished. This was ultimately proved when the Mariner probes visited Mars in the 1960s and with few exceptions, found no canals. Naturally the space probes could see Mars in much higher resolution than the observer at the earthbound telescope could.

But does Christian's test prove it's an optical illusion created by varying shades of granulation below the limit of being resolved? Does it explain out all of them or are there something more to at least some of these anomalies? Can some of these be explained by filament feet anchored in the photosphere from above? If so it seems like an ultra-narrowband filter would be needed to see them. Like maybe Sodium, Helium, CaK or maybe a Gband filter? Hb? Comparing your images directly to an SDO image taken at the same time as was attempted before by Mr. Lasky may shed light on it. To eliminate one possibility as Christian may have done here may not eliminate all of them.

Notice the bent upside down uneven V shaped anomaly above the lower lead spot in the group in Christian's image. It is seen easily at lower resolution when it was practically invisible at high resolution. I thank William Pellisard for the use of his fine image which Christian suggested to use for the test.

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DeepSolar64 wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:10 am Comparing your images directly to an SDO image taken at the same time as was attempted before by Mr. Lasky may shed light on it. To eliminate one possibility as Christian may have done here may not eliminate all of them.

Notice the bent upside down uneven V shaped anomaly above the lower lead spot in the group in Christian's image. It is seen easily at lower resolution when it was practically invisible at high resolution. I thank William Pellisard for the use of his fine image which Christian suggested to use for the test.

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It was me that started comparing the 'images' to the SDO/HMI data but as expected AL poo-pooed my efforts by changing his already fluid goalposts so I ceased forthwith.

My main issue with the photo you presented here is that the 'anomolies' (TBH I can see dozens) are running at roughly 90° to the axis of the AR and consequently at 90° to the lines of magnetic flux that will be running between the two main spots , surely the 'anomolies' would be following the lines of magnetism ... ?


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steveward53 wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:48 am
DeepSolar64 wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:10 am Comparing your images directly to an SDO image taken at the same time as was attempted before by Mr. Lasky may shed light on it. To eliminate one possibility as Christian may have done here may not eliminate all of them.

Notice the bent upside down uneven V shaped anomaly above the lower lead spot in the group in Christian's image. It is seen easily at lower resolution when it was practically invisible at high resolution. I thank William Pellisard for the use of his fine image which Christian suggested to use for the test.

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It was me that started comparing the 'images' to the SDO/HMI data but as expected AL poo-pooed my efforts by changing his already fluid goalposts so I ceased forthwith.

My main issue with the photo you presented here is that the 'anomolies' (TBH I can see dozens) are running at roughly 90° to the axis of the AR and consequently at 90° to the lines of magnetic flux that will be running between the two main spots , surely the 'anomolies' would be following the lines of magnetism ... ?
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With Lowell I read that he had the trouble a lot with Venus too. Seeing the blood vessels in the retina of his eyes. It was because he used an eyepiece of a very short focal length! I wonder if he ever figured it out or did someone else?

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Comparing our images to those of the SDO is a good idea. Lasky and You were on the right track here. But the anomalies need to precisely line up to be verified to be genuine.

Use the SDOHMI magnetogram PFSS images to trace the magnetic field lines. The LMSAL website has them.

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DeepSolar64 wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:57 pm
steveward53 wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:48 am
DeepSolar64 wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:10 am Comparing your images directly to an SDO image taken at the same time as was attempted before by Mr. Lasky may shed light on it. To eliminate one possibility as Christian may have done here may not eliminate all of them.

Notice the bent upside down uneven V shaped anomaly above the lower lead spot in the group in Christian's image. It is seen easily at lower resolution when it was practically invisible at high resolution. I thank William Pellisard for the use of his fine image which Christian suggested to use for the test.

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It was me that started comparing the 'images' to the SDO/HMI data but as expected AL poo-pooed my efforts by changing his already fluid goalposts so I ceased forthwith.

My main issue with the photo you presented here is that the 'anomolies' (TBH I can see dozens) are running at roughly 90° to the axis of the AR and consequently at 90° to the lines of magnetic flux that will be running between the two main spots , surely the 'anomolies' would be following the lines of magnetism ... ?
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With Lowell I read that he had the trouble a lot with Venus too. Seeing the blood vessels in the retina of his eyes. It was because he used an eyepiece of a very short focal length! I wonder if he ever figured it out or did someone else?

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Comparing our images to those of the SDO is a good idea. Lasky and You were on the right track here. But the anomalies need to precisely line up to be verified to be genuine.

Use the SDOHMI magnetogram PFSS images to trace the magnetic field lines. The LMSAL website has them.

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Hi James , I'm aware of the PFSS data which is what sets my alarm bells ringing , you'll never find magnetic lines such as are proposed on the anomoly posted , reaching from the centre of a pair of spots going across the grain in each direction.


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steveward53 wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:05 pm
DeepSolar64 wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:57 pm
steveward53 wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:48 am

It was me that started comparing the 'images' to the SDO/HMI data but as expected AL poo-pooed my efforts by changing his already fluid goalposts so I ceased forthwith.

My main issue with the photo you presented here is that the 'anomolies' (TBH I can see dozens) are running at roughly 90° to the axis of the AR and consequently at 90° to the lines of magnetic flux that will be running between the two main spots , surely the 'anomolies' would be following the lines of magnetism ... ?
Aaron,
With Lowell I read that he had the trouble a lot with Venus too. Seeing the blood vessels in the retina of his eyes. It was because he used an eyepiece of a very short focal length! I wonder if he ever figured it out or did someone else?

Steve,
Comparing our images to those of the SDO is a good idea. Lasky and You were on the right track here. But the anomalies need to precisely line up to be verified to be genuine.

Use the SDOHMI magnetogram PFSS images to trace the magnetic field lines. The LMSAL website has them.

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Hi James , I'm aware of the PFSS data which is what sets my alarm bells ringing , you'll never find magnetic lines such as are proposed on the anomaly posted , reaching from the centre of a pair of spots going across the grain in each direction.


Here's Mark's image in Sodium D line. This anomaly links the spots which may indicate a magnetic connection in this case.


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Here's Mark's image in Sodium D line. This anomaly links the spots which may indicate a magnetic connection in this case.



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Hmm... Curious.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martian_canals

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Steve,
I know. I was just showing Mark's image to state that it's anomaly may follow the magnetic lines between those spots. Obviously I see no parallel in the image from Christian that I downresed.

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I have to look close but I think I can see it.


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StarHugger wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:39 am
DeepSolar64 wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:33 am I have to look close but I think I can see it.
Yes its close enough it is barely noticable but there, kind of like the practically invisible statement in another previous post.

Cool to see it remain.

Did you see this? Alexandra has created a thread for the research concerning these anomalies.

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I have trouble discerning at all many of these. In the first small dark green image I have to look closely to see anything. It is faculae or faculae related? They appear dark and diffuse like inverted faculae. The lighter green image shows something different. An arc of dark shading NE of a small sunspot. It could be the aforementioned low resolution viewed, apparent or otherwise? alignment of cooler granules or maybe a filament foot. Are these at 540 nm or are they using your wideband Ha filter? We need an ultra-narrowband, sodium, helium or magnesium filter that may give a better view of the photosphere-chromosphere transition region, that's my opinion anyways. Maybe others will chime in.

I really am at a loss of words. I dunno.

James

P.S. If the features appear like magnetic arcs see if they line up with SDOHMimag PFSS images like Warren did with his Ha disc.


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6 pages in might as well not stop now :lol:_StarHugger
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Yes. You need higher contrast images that show the features more clearly. Higher resolution would be nice too. I keep thinking of that larger refractor you have stowed away in the shed.

More input from other observers and imagers is greatly needed. I probably lack the equipment and skill to thoroughly make a good assessment or opinion of your phenomenon.

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Goodnight Aaron. Bedtime for me. I hope to image tomorrow if time and the weather allows.

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StarHugger wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 5:23 am
DeepSolar64 wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:55 am Goodnight Aaron. Bedtime for me. I hope to image tomorrow if time and the weather allows.

James
Best of luck then James Tomorrow indeed!
I have just wrapped up the session and then will be the long day of stacking, editing and post processing.

Thanks Aaron.


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