Choosing herschel

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Hi,

Please which herschel wedge would you choose in 2" ?
I already have a 1,25" Lunt but it's hard to use due to a too short focuser travel...

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EboO wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2023 3:07 pm Hi,

Please which herschel wedge would you choose in 2" ?
I already have a 1,25" Lunt but it's hard to use due to a too short focuser travel...

Thanks.
I can't believe no one answered this, so i hope you will get your answer.

I posted or commented here only to say that recently i asked people on Facebook about Lunt Wedge 1.25" because i don't want to go with Baader Herschel which is so expensive as a wedge really, but sounds 1.25" version of Lunt isn't recommended, you mentioned about short focus travel, another one mentioned about heat resistance performance compared to 2", so i think i should just go directly to 2" version and never look back, but Baader one is the best out there, but pricey, so i either wait to afford it, or just buy any other 2" Herschel that is a bit cheaper than Baader one.


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Hi,

Thanks for your answer. I too think Baader 2" is the best but a bit pricey.
For the moment i play with my quark and lunt 50, i looking for a good classified (Baader or Lunt).


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EboO wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:50 am Hi,

Thanks for your answer. I too think Baader 2" is the best but a bit pricey.
For the moment i play with my quark and lunt 50, i looking for a good classified (Baader or Lunt).
I want to complete the three known solar filters so WL is one of them, and all said that it is the best done with Herschel Wedge, i already have the Quark since last year and CaK since this year but i didn't play with any yet for some reasons, i will finish scopes choices then i will use them all.


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You're right and CaK seems very interesting, so Herschel is necessary (or a quark but not the same price).
I tried pst, lunt 50, lunt 50 mod and quark and for the moment the easier for me is the quark.


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I have the Lunt 1.25 that I use with my Orion ED80T with no issues. What scope are you using yours with?


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EboO wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:09 pm You're right and CaK seems very interesting, so Herschel is necessary (or a quark but not the same price).
I tried pst, lunt 50, lunt 50 mod and quark and for the moment the easier for me is the quark.
What do you mean by easier for you?


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rigel123 wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:58 am I have the Lunt 1.25 that I use with my Orion ED80T with no issues. What scope are you using yours with?
I use a takahashi fc-100-df, the focus travel is a problem with 1,25".

@TareqPhoto i start quark before installing my setup and it's easy to find the sun before mounting quark.
And because i'm a fan of big magnification for sun quark is ideal.


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EboO wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:17 pm
rigel123 wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:58 am I have the Lunt 1.25 that I use with my Orion ED80T with no issues. What scope are you using yours with?
I use a takahashi fc-100-df, the focus travel is a problem with 1,25".

@TareqPhoto i start quark before installing my setup and it's easy to find the sun before mounting quark.
And because i'm a fan of big magnification for sun quark is ideal.
Ok, i will give it a try one day and see, i only did with Antlia Herschel Wedge and CaK filter and it was easy to do really.


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I have an other project for white light, with a 10x bino.
Initially i wanted to buy Thousand Oaks threaded filters but i live in Europe and shipping costs are very high. I found an alternative with Astrozap, but is it as good as TO ?
Or Baader astrosolar is the best solution ? I have a preference for glass over film but perhaps am i wrong.
If some members have advices...


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If i can remember well, the wedge is better than solar film, this is one thing, second thing is, the film is better than glass, almost all mentioned that, so your first choice is the herschel wedge then the second one is film, now which film....?

If i have to put them in order then i will put Baader as first, then Astrozap second, Thousands Oaks is very nice one but i see more solar film used by users from Baader and Astrozap than Thousands Oaks.


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Ok, so the best solution would be baader astrosolar and it's not really pricey so i can give a try, and if i’m disappointed i go again on herschel.


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EboO wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 8:14 am Ok, so the best solution would be baader astrosolar and it's not really pricey so i can give a try, and if i’m disappointed i go again on herschel.
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EboO wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 8:14 am Ok, so the best solution would be baader astrosolar and it's not really pricey so i can give a try, and if i’m disappointed i go again on herschel.
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Hi,

What would be the most interesting with solar film : polarized or continuum filter ?
If continuum filter have you got some feedback with the altair ?


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Best would be Continuum filter for seeing granulation detail. I've only ever used the Baader version and this is great. However, I recently purchased the Altair G-Band filter and this is like a cross between Continuum and Calcium, the granulation is very sharp and obvious and you can see faculae well into the middle of the disc. However, the spot penumbra and umbra is much darker.

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So Altair would be a compromise ?


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EboO wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:40 am What would be the most interesting with solar film : polarized or continuum filter ?
Polarising and continuum filters are completely different that do completely different things...


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You're right, during this time i read some articles about each one and the continuum would be the best choice for me. But it seems to be marginal in quality result for visual, better for photo and altair seems to be slightly better.
Users' experiences remain the best way in my opinion.


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Here is a thread to show you images of the differences. There is no brand difference, it is wavelength that matters and give different visual effects. A polarising filter is a completely different thing again and will reduce glare if you are finding visual too bright.
viewtopic.php?p=385824&hilit=g+band#p385824
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G band is really interesting, is it for both visual and photo or just photo like CaK ?
Perhaps i need to try VA such a filter.


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Others have looked visually and enjoyed the view. The faculae stands out more.

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Do we know if Altair are planning a 2 inch G filter version? Could be perfect for my Baader Herschel wedge


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The 1.25" just screws on the eyepiece or camera nose, there is no need for a 2"

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